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I posted on another topic what Ayecka SR1 can do for MPE streams, although the software was designed for receiving the Eumetsat weather service, which can be obtained at 10.0E. The application used for this is Tellicast, which is, after all, also an MPE service.

Only this device, having hardware support for IP over satellite network services, can decapsulate and extract packets from a transponder stream in MPE mode at positions where there are such IP-over-Sat streams.

The first attempt to use Ayecka for an MPE stream was at 27.5W, decoding the Siminn TV stream(@1358).
Here is the second test I did at 7.0E, succeeding the same on mux 12515 V,1301,3/4, which has the Polish radio stream.

With the help of a terminal/Telnet/cmd/putty, one can configure the device to receive such a stream. Here is the interface to access the menu and enter the reception parameters.
 

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I posted on another topic what Ayecka SR1 can do for MPE streams, although the software was designed for receiving the Eumetsat weather service, which can be obtained at 10.0E. The application used for this is Tellicast, which is, after all, also an MPE service.

Only this device, having hardware support for IP over satellite network services, can decapsulate and extract packets from a transponder stream in MPE mode at positions where there are such IP-over-Sat streams.

The first attempt to use Ayecka for an MPE stream was at 27.5W, decoding the Siminn TV stream(@1358).
Here is the second test I did at 7.0E, succeeding the same on mux 12515 V,1301,3/4, which has the Polish radio stream.

With the help of a terminal/Telnet/cmd/putty, one can configure the device to receive such a stream. Here is the interface to access the menu and enter the reception parameters.

Saw this press release today. A useful piece of kit for MPE streams…..don't know availability.


FTA Communication Technologies SARL (Inverto), a leading supplier of broadcast reception equipment and video streaming solutions serving major DTH operators across the world, and Montage LZ Technologies, a global leading fabless provider for analogue and mixed-signal semiconductor IC, will showcase at Convergence India Expo a live demonstration of Inverto’s airstream Live Gateway, a fully DVB-NIP (Native IP) compliant receiver based on Montage LZ’s Symphony 4 SoC.

Inverto’s airstream Live Gateway is a cost-effective DVB-NIP compatible satellite decoder designed to receive HLS and DASH encoded content, distributed over broadcast satellites using Inverto’s airstream Live content distribution solution.

The airstream Live Gateway features a DVB-S2X front end and supports content delivery over GSE HEM or DVB-MPE transport streams. It receives live mABR (multicast Adaptive Bit Rate) video streams or any other type of media files including VoD, documents and data files over multicast streams and publish the content over a built-in web server. The airstream Live Gateway features a LAN port and a WLAN Access Point to stream the content to mobile devices directly or through a companion airstream Live Edge server when a larger number of end users’ mobile devices shall be supported at the same time.

In addition, the airstream Live Gateway can decode the live mABR TV streams and display over a TV screen using its HDMI and analogue A/V ports. The airstream airstream Live features a USB2.0 port for connecting an optional local storage.

“Montage LZ’s Symphony 4 SoC has proven a perfect match to enable low-latency decoding and processing of the DVB-NIP signals” stated Gil LAIFER, Inverto’s VP Products. “Its features and performance made it an ideal basis for our software development team to optimise and deploy our airstream Live DVB-NIP Gateway for a wide range of use cases covering DTH, Education, Remote communities and Mobility applications at sea, land and air. Accompanied with our airstream Live cloud service and apps for mobile devices, service providers have everything they need to operate a first class content delivery service over broadcast networks based on the latest DVB-NIP technology.”

Mars LIN, Montage LZ’s Head of Product Line Marketing added: “We are glad our partnership with Inverto on DVB-NIP technology sees a strong kick off using our Symphony 4 SoC, with optimised system performance and wide coverage of use cases. We’re thrilled to develop together with Inverto with our latest Symphony 6 SoC, to further enhance Inverto gateway product performance and features, providing expanded end-user device support.“
 

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The more devices for MPE/Generic streams, the better for those who have...money, as many as possible.
I saw an Ayecka SR 1 Pro on eBay for $1150.
I don't know the price of Montage LZ's Symphony 4 SoC.
 

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I guess this would work nicely with the DAB transmissions using MPE (e.g. Métro 1 + Métro 2 on 5°W, German public muxes on 7°E, WDR on 23.5°E) too? Presumably it just forwards the multicast packets onto your local network via the ethernet connection?

How much does one cost? :)

The "Pro" version (which looks like a bigger, rack-mountable tool), supports GSE as well.
 

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@Adam792,

Yes, you're right. You can use Ayecka for DAB streams, too. My only problem is being able to lock the signal with the tuner. Even if I have a strong signal, some muxes it doesn't see.
I need to study this issue.

And yet, some MPE streams can download and run. So far, I can only play them with MPlayer. With VLC, PotPlayer, and others, I can't play the stream because they don't know (who knows) the FFmpeg AAC (MPEG-2 and 4) codec that MPlayer has.

And this version I have supports GSE as well. I need to study why the device locks the signal on some muxes and not on others.
For example, all Polish streams at 7.0E, on 12515 V, 1301 can be played with Ayecka SR1 without problems—as well as those at 30.0W.

Many years ago, I saw that Ayecka SR1 costs about 500 euros. Now I don't know officially if it has remained the same price.
I bought it from a weather enthusiast at Eumetsat. If the device has the same price, I can say I bought it at a reasonable price.
The Ayecka Pro goes for 1500 Euro on eBay.

 

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Not sure, but I believe that Novelsat NS2000 can be licensed for TS over IP, too.
If so, do you think that all streams captured by the Ayecka could be received?
 

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I don't know about Novelsat except what has been posted on the forum, of course, superficially, and I can't talk about what I haven't checked myself.
I am in the testing phase with Ayecka SR1. As I test it, I'll know which MPE streams it can run and which it can't.
After that, I can post in full knowledge.
 

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I will be very interested to hear if it works with the DAB on 5°W/7°E and the DVB-GSE DAB on 23.5°E!

To play any of those after it's been demodulated and forwarded onto the network by the Ayecka device, it should be as simple as just using the edi2eti tool with dablin_gtk to play the DAB. E.g.

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edi2eti 239.0.1.11:5001 | dablin_gtk

For Métropolitain 1 on 5°W 11461H, or

Code:
edi2eti 239.128.43.43:50043 | dablin_gtk

For the DR Deutschland mux on 23.5°E 12641V DVB-GSE.
 

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Or NRK on 1°West is also in DVB GSE. However I think a special license for GSE is necessary on the Ayecka.
 

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I don't know how the signal is on 11595 H, 1160, 2/3 at 62.0E in other areas, where we have an IP-Radio-over-Sat stream steered by the Antenne provider in Romania. Still, in my area, with a 1.50m antenna, it is weak and very fluctuating, so most of the time, my devices don't detect it.
(It's also explainable that when you "stack" so many frequencies at such small distances, the one with the stronger signal will "choke" the weaker one. And my mux has the weakest signal. Luckily, the FEC 2/5 allows it to surface occasionally.)

That's why I was more than happy with the Ayecka SR1 could lock it. But even more, I could use it to stream three transmitted radio.
A bonus for the Ayecka SR1 is that it has an extremely sensitive tuner and can work symbol rates even below 100 Ks/s.

I should also add that MPlayer is the only player out of the many radio apps installed on my computer that I could use for these streams.

 

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