BBC Prime - no reception today 1st Feb 2009

astral69

astral69

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Dreambox 7020Si receiver, PLi image loaded and Irdeto and Viaccess cards installed. Dishes for Nilesat + Hotbird with lnb's for BADR and Eurobird 9
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I cannot decode the BBC Prime signal today.

I have the correct card inserted.
Is it a BBC problem, or have I screwed up somewhere??
 
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teide_ian

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Has it not moved to a different satellite ?
 
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astral69 said:
I cannot decode the BBC Prime signal today.

I have the correct card inserted.
Is it a BBC problem, or have I screwed up somewhere??
Is there a channel?
I would have suggested to open the teletext which is FTA, but they have stopped the transmission few weeks ago, except for the note that there is no teletext (which is good enough just to confirm that there is a channel)
Also you can click the button to set which subtitle and see if there is any language selections.
 
astral69

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Dreambox 7020Si receiver, PLi image loaded and Irdeto and Viaccess cards installed. Dishes for Nilesat + Hotbird with lnb's for BADR and Eurobird 9
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Middle East
Yes there is a channel.
The Text page, saying there is no text still comes up...

The move is not until March.
 
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astral69 said:
Yes there is a channel.
The Text page, saying there is no text still comes up...

The move is not until March.
Yes. I confirmed this last night also.
Check your subscription finish date. You may have a 12 month subscription, but I read few days ago that you need to use a hardware Viaccess CAM to get the correct validity of the card. The emulators will give you a much shorter validity.
 
astral69

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My Satellite Setup
Dreambox 7020Si receiver, PLi image loaded and Irdeto and Viaccess cards installed. Dishes for Nilesat + Hotbird with lnb's for BADR and Eurobird 9
My Location
Middle East
The subscription is 12 months and only about 4 have elapsed.........

Will try reloading the emulator, or a different one.
 
astral69

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My Satellite Setup
Dreambox 7020Si receiver, PLi image loaded and Irdeto and Viaccess cards installed. Dishes for Nilesat + Hotbird with lnb's for BADR and Eurobird 9
My Location
Middle East
I have canned the Pli image on my cf card and totally re-installed the image on the HD, including scam.
So all my changes have gone.

Still cannot decode BBC Prime, so I conclude it is a BBC problem.

Can anyone confirm this deduction??
 
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As already stated even if it is a 12 month Viaccess 3.0 card you will need to put it into a genuine Viaccess cam to get it to update for the full 12 months. You will probably find you will need to do this 3 or 4 times in the 12 month period.

I had the same problem with my JSC Sports card :eek:

It was cheaper for me to sell the card than buy a new cam :-rofl2

:-beer

Nano
 
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Apparently BBC refresh their subscription cards at the beginning of every month and "patched" receivers can't update so the card has to be in latest version viaccess cam or receiver with embedded viaccess. I checked someones' bbc prime card just today and it worked in an x-cruiser receiver, after being out of a receiver since Friday.
I thought a JSC sports card was a countdown card and once activated will continue for 12 months?
 
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So did i. It still requires to be put into an official Viaccess cam to get the 12 months out of it though.

My Dreambox only saw it in 4 month periods . Every time it was put into a viaccess cam it updated to 4 months again O-no
 
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In which Satellites is BBC Prime available? Is this the one that has Formula 1 and MotoGP coverage for the 2009?
Thank you.
 
astral69

astral69

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My Satellite Setup
Dreambox 7020Si receiver, PLi image loaded and Irdeto and Viaccess cards installed. Dishes for Nilesat + Hotbird with lnb's for BADR and Eurobird 9
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Middle East
Currently BBC Prime is on Hotbird at 13E, but moving to Eurobird 9E in March.

Hotbird does handle Aljezeera Sport, with F1,
not sure about MotoGP
 
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My Satellite Setup
Dreambox 7020Si receiver, PLi image loaded and Irdeto and Viaccess cards installed. Dishes for Nilesat + Hotbird with lnb's for BADR and Eurobird 9
My Location
Middle East
nanochickin said:
So did i. It still requires to be put into an official Viaccess cam to get the 12 months out of it though.

My Dreambox only saw it in 4 month periods . Every time it was put into a viaccess cam it updated to 4 months again O-no
Is this a bug of the cam sw or the Cards??
My old Starsat box only had softcams.:mad:
 
astral69

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My Satellite Setup
Dreambox 7020Si receiver, PLi image loaded and Irdeto and Viaccess cards installed. Dishes for Nilesat + Hotbird with lnb's for BADR and Eurobird 9
My Location
Middle East
Checking prices a Viaccess CAM costs almost as much as a subscription to BBC Prime for a year........)(-red
 
astral69

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My Satellite Setup
Dreambox 7020Si receiver, PLi image loaded and Irdeto and Viaccess cards installed. Dishes for Nilesat + Hotbird with lnb's for BADR and Eurobird 9
My Location
Middle East
I have checked out the sponsors and am not impressed.

HDTV is the only one that lists the Red Viaccess CAM.
When I fill in the details for an order, there is NO rebate of VAT.

Cost 46 pounds plus 35 shipping, to say nothing of clearance here........
Way too expensive.
More than a years sub for BBC Prime
 
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astral69 said:
I have checked out the sponsors and am not impressed.

HDTV is the only one that lists the Red Viaccess CAM.
When I fill in the details for an order, there is NO rebate of VAT.

Cost 46 pounds plus 35 shipping, to say nothing of clearance here........
Way too expensive.
More than a years sub for BBC Prime
Try Sateuropa. I checked their price before I posted this morning 39 GBP including VAT.
In the comments or customer's note, request VAT deduction.
Use Standard EU delivery at 7.5 GBP
http://www.sateuropa.co.uk/overview.asp?catid=10&subcat=6
They might give you a hard time with payment by credit card, depending on your location.
But check first if BBC Prime new encryption can be opened using the Red Viaccess CAM.
 
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astral69 said:
Is this a bug of the cam sw or the Cards??
My old Starsat box only had softcams.:mad:
Just a though. Did you try to get the authentication using the Starsat receiver? Once it gets the validity extended, you can check it in the Dreambox 7020S.
 
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My Satellite Setup
Dreambox 7020Si receiver, PLi image loaded and Irdeto and Viaccess cards installed. Dishes for Nilesat + Hotbird with lnb's for BADR and Eurobird 9
My Location
Middle East
The old BBC prime used Viaccess 2.5,
the new signal will be Viaccess 4.0.

Will the same CAM work??
 
astral69

astral69

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My Satellite Setup
Dreambox 7020Si receiver, PLi image loaded and Irdeto and Viaccess cards installed. Dishes for Nilesat + Hotbird with lnb's for BADR and Eurobird 9
My Location
Middle East
HB13DISH said:
Just a though. Did you try to get the authentication using the Starsat receiver? Once it gets the validity extended, you can check it in the Dreambox 7020S.
I have sold the old Starsat receiver, but may be able to find someone to help me....
Most of the receivers here are purely softcam, no cards.:confused
 
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