BulgariaSat-1 @ 1.9E

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Thank you I understand and I was just wondering what king of programmes Bulgaria would rent its satellite to,since Bulgaria has a very small population to fill a whole satellite.
Hence my asking! I ll be waiting
 

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Thank you I understand and I was just wondering what king of programmes Bulgaria would rent its satellite to,since Bulgaria has a very small population to fill a whole satellite.
Hence my asking! I ll be waiting

Maybe this will answer it a bit:

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Watch this space. I would guess there will be a lot of channels on this satellite as it is a part venture with Bulsatcom which currently use transponders on Hellas Sat 2 at 39 east
 

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FEC 3/4 & DVB-S unless stated:- Blind Scan 11700 to 12500 H & V TM5502HD + 100cm dish

Test Carriers observed today:-

12310 H 2640 5/6 S2
12326 H 2600
12333 H 2220 S2
12338 H 1480 S2
12343 H 2220
12348 H 1480 S2
12495 H 2220 5/6 S2
12306 V 2220 S2
12316 V 1910
12319 V 1850 S2
12346 V 9720
12436 V 9260

FlySat BulgariaSat-1 @ 1.9° East

all FAKE , next big bug from Wiliam-1

use LOF 10600 but not use 22 kHz

12310-10600=1710 11460-9750=1710

all data from Eutelsat 3B
 

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I think I'm not mistaken if I say many users,if not the majority,from this forum are not interested in TV programs,but the possibility of receiving satellites that are operational;less interested,the better.For these users,rathers dxers, every satellite launched regardless of where it is placed is a technical challenge,and if they succeed,is a reward for the passion they invested.
Exactly. Getting a signal from a fringe reception area or a new satellite is the orgasm of a satellite dxer :) Dxers rarely watch TV because they are busy aligning dishes :)
 

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Exactly. Getting a signal from a fringe reception area or a new satellite is the orgasm of a satellite dxer :) Dxers rarely watch TV because they are busy aligning dishes :)

Spent all day Monday on & off with a few refreshment breaks improving my signals :-biglaugh
 

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The really sad people here only look at the beaconso_O - much more interesting than programs.
 

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Exactly. Getting a signal from a fringe reception area or a new satellite is the orgasm of a satellite dxer :) Dxers rarely watch TV because they are busy aligning dishes :)
What is this "watch TV" thing? I don't understand...
 

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What is this "watch TV" thing? I don't understand...

I think it is a new phenomena way over my head ;)
 

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FlySat BulgariaSat-1 @ 1.9° East

all FAKE , next big bug from Wiliam-1

use LOF 10600 but not use 22 kHz

12310-10600=1710 11460-9750=1710

all data from Eutelsat 3B

The 850 MHz offset "bug" has happened quite often, from the past I remember several false Badr transponders reported by others.
It may be wrong configuration in receiver, faulty LNB, and also some twin/quad LNB have a sneaky internal L.O. frequency leakage. That's why I prefer single LNB for DX!

I suppose william-1 has already told Flysat to delete these fakes, but we all know Flysat response is a bit... unpredictable!
 

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The 850 MHz offset "bug" has happened quite often, from the past I remember several false Badr transponders reported by others.
It may be wrong configuration in receiver, faulty LNB, and also some twin/quad LNB have a sneaky internal L.O. frequency leakage. That's why I prefer single LNB for DX!

I suppose william-1 has already told Flysat to delete these fakes, but we all know Flysat response is a bit... unpredictable!

FlySat BulgariaSat-1 @ 1.9° East now updated :)
 

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Can anybody tell me if and how the test carriers can be received?
 

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Can anybody tell me if and how the test carriers can be received?
If they are just carriers they will show up as a circle on Crazyscan's constellation display. In the case of the beacons (which may be carriers or low data rate xPSK), they may show as a furry circle or there may be a hint of a constellation in Crazyscan depending on signal strength. Here are examples: BulgariaSat-1 @ 1.9E and Satellites Community - Beacon(s)
Otherwise, a spectrum analyser is the only easy way:
Yes, they are signals of Telemetry/Beacons (11705,50 V and 12496,50 H)

View attachment 109070 View attachment 109071

Based on the observed test carrier, roughly this should be the frequency plan..

View attachment 109072

From SE UK on 1.5PF
Note: DRO LNB so centre frequency on plots not accurate
View attachment 109574 View attachment 109575

I'm not sure how set top boxes respond, maybe someone else can say how yours will, if it will.

The way I separated 1.9 from others was to peak the dish on the unwanted and then the wanted so I knew which was which.
 
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Can anybody tell me if and how the test carriers can be received?

I am using 10 east for this exercise:-
With a receiver like the TM5302HD & 5502HD there is a menu called Satellite Finder this shows via a graph the active transponders on a satellite,
Operating in 4 bands 10700 to 11700 H & V
--------------------------11700 to 12500 H & V

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Now I can see where there are more active transponders so I will Blind Scan these area's but the receiver will only lock onto 8PSK & QPSK transponders,
Although I can see 16APSK transponders in the graph I cannot lock onto them most of these & 32APSK transponders are data streams.

FlySat Eutelsat 10A @ 10° East
 

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New Blind Scan now shows the new transponders in my data base:-

DSCN2067[1].JPG DSCN2068[1].JPG DSCN2069[1].JPG DSCN2070[1].JPG DSCN2071[1].JPG DSCN2072[1].JPG
 

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Nice.
I wish someone could make something like that for Enigma receivers.
 

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Be nice to have a Test Card so we can get the exact position locked in.
 

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On base of unofficial information here in Bulgaria,Bulgariasat will be start of exploatation between 11- 25 September. Information from Bulsatcom forum:
Code:
http://forum.bulsat.com/viewtopic.php?p=224574#p224574
 
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We've been waiting for a long time! Will it be this year? :(
 
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