Astra 1N tests - latest chat

[solly]

it news of astra 1n not use pan europe beam of channel 5 and channel 4

 

[Analoguesat]

it news of astra 1n not use pan europe beam of channel 5 and channel 4

Of course not - they will all be on the uk beam

 

[Dan Dan]

Is it likely then that we could see bbc ect on astra 1N in the near future? If so then we could possibly get it on a 2.4m dish now we have established that we can receive horzontals here in lanzarote?

so you get 11053 H on what size dish

 

[Huevos]

Astra 1n much stronger than 2d in the North of Fuerteventuraon a 2.4 mtr dish. Any teccy's out there who can answer this. I am trying to simulate a smaller dish to estimate reception. I have a C120 feed horn, The diameter is 80mm, I took some cooking foil cut a hole in it and placed it over the feed

Forget the tin foil. Get some heavy bath towels, soaking wet, and use them to cover the dish face. Keep covering more up until you lose signal lock. Once you figure out where the signal failure happens you need to add about 50% more area to give you a reliable margin.

 

[radioagogo]

Forget the tin foil. Get some heavy bath towels, soaking wet, and use them to cover the dish face. Keep covering more up until you lose signal lock. Once you figure out where the signal failure happens you need to add about 50% more area to give you a reliable margin.

D'you know it never occured to me to try it that way. Thanks for that. I'm just trying to establish the minimum size for accepable reception for those without large dishes. I was told today that someone was recieving channel 5 on a 1.35 metre dish in Corralejo but it was breaking up. I find that hard to believe. My neighbour across road has a 1.35, maybe tomorrow I'll take the meter down and see what I can find. I reckon a certain relay company on Lanzarote is about to make a killing. Cheers, will let you know how I get on.

 

[ralphmagno]

hello,
i am receiving the astra 1 n here in naples italy with a 1 meter dish.
i did post it in another section.
looking at lynsat there are 3 beams on this new bird.
beam one and two are strong and cover all of europe no problem.
now we have the spot beam thats another story.
if the bbc1 and bbc 2 and free view all go to the narrow UK spot beam we will not pick it up as well
the spot beam probagation map if it is correct looks like the astra 2 d does now.
we will have to see what happens.
ralph

 

[Dan Dan]

D'you know it never occured to me to try it that way. Thanks for that. I'm just trying to establish the minimum size for accepable reception for those without large dishes. I was told today that someone was recieving channel 5 on a 1.35 metre dish in Corralejo but it was breaking up. I find that hard to believe. My neighbour across road has a 1.35, maybe tomorrow I'll take the meter down and see what I can find. I reckon a certain relay company on Lanzarote is about to make a killing. Cheers, will let you know how I get on.

i hope a 1.6/1.8 will work as that is a size some ppl can have

 

[satelliteman]

Is it likely then that we could see bbc ect on astra 1N in the near future? If so then we could possibly get it on a 2.4m dish now we have established that we can receive horzontals here in lanzarote?

so you get 11053 H on what size dish

It's above and in the Canaries sticky thread..... a 2.4m offset.

 

[milestone 11]

Here in Fuerteventura, the 1.35m can't be much too small. Maybe a 1.6-1.8m would suffice. This morning, on a 1.35m I'm receiving C4HD again intermittently, probably something to do with the weather, fully clear skies today. I'm very close to "Radioagogo" who is getting good reception on a 2.4m.

 

[welshman234]

Hmm I can fill up a container with unwanted 2.7m and 3m dishes at half price. You can make a killing out there :-)
Now, where can I find cheap 10m dishes ?

Apexsat GmbH, Pforzheim, Germany worth a try.......just google and youll get their website

 

[Dan Dan]

have you tried realigning dish on ASTRA1N only,as it makes a different here in the island.i am forever moving dishs from astra2a/b to eurobird,to bring in the CBS,true channels...over 0.5 difference.also according to king of sat there is some Declination gap between 2d and 1n - dont forget to check the screw

 

[C0re]

The last update of the frequency charts at lyngsat.com made me laugh a little:

ITV HD has been changed into Gremlins tests

_http://www.lyngsat.com/astra1n.html

 

[Analoguesat]

:-looky

ITV HD has been changed into Gremlins tests

 

[solly]

only i know gremlins move

 

[Llew]

The last update of the frequency charts at lyngsat.com made me laugh a little:

ITV HD has been changed into Gremlins tests

_http://www.lyngsat.com/astra1n.html

LOL, Sat-digest have it the same. Who's copying who?

 

[oldfart]

CH4 HD & 11053H -both booming in Tenerife South.
3m dish!

 

[radioagogo]

Here in Fuerteventura, the 1.35m can't be much too small. Maybe a 1.6-1.8m would suffice. This morning, on a 1.35m I'm receiving C4HD again intermittently, probably something to do with the weather, fully clear skies today. I'm very close to "Radioagogo" who is getting good reception on a 2.4m.

Hi again, I took Huevos' advice and covered up me 2.4 with wet towels, my neigbours are now convinced I have lost the plot. The results were interesting. I covered the dish leaving 1.5 ish metres exposed, 2d totally gone, 1n on all operating transponders still watchable but pixellating, so my conculusion is that you might get away with a 1.6 certainly a 1.8 but I agree with Thor, you need to check the dish alignment, also you need a good quality LNB. Must go to neighbour and check on their 1.35. will let you know.

 

[Dan Dan]

Hi again, I took Huevos' advice and covered up me 2.4 with wet towels, my neigbours are now convinced I have lost the plot. The results were interesting. I covered the dish leaving 1.5 ish metres exposed, 2d totally gone, 1n on all operating transponders still watchable but pixellating, so my conculusion is that you might get away with a 1.6 certainly a 1.8 but I agree with Thor, you need to check the dish alignment, also you need a good quality LNB. Must go to neighbour and check on their 1.35. will let you know.

what sort of meter have you got ,can it tell what is what or is it just signal

 

[park_gate]

If you can get Astra 1N channels then yes you will get some extra programming when Astra 2D is turned off next year.

HOWEVER 1N will be replaced by 2E / 2F which will certainly have much narrower reception parameters than 1N.

And before anyone asks - no we dont know what will be possible on 2E / 2F!

you say "certainly have much narrower reception parameters" but what do you base that on?

Can we have a link to the source?

The following shows Astra 1N use a 2.6M antenna:

_http://www.astrium.eads.net/media/document/launch_kit_203_1_2.pdf

As this is the maximim size antenna fitted to Eurostar E3000 how can 2E, 2F and 2G have tighter beams if they are the same design as 1N?

Terry

 

[milestone 11]

Hi again, I took Huevos' advice and covered up me 2.4 with wet towels, my neigbours are now convinced I have lost the plot. The results were interesting. I covered the dish leaving 1.5 ish metres exposed, 2d totally gone, 1n on all operating transponders still watchable but pixellating, so my conculusion is that you might get away with a 1.6 certainly a 1.8 but I agree with Thor, you need to check the dish alignment, also you need a good quality LNB. Must go to neighbour and check on their 1.35. will let you know.

Thanks for that radioagogo. C4 was pixellating until around mid-day. Nothing now.