Batten down the hatches winter storm chat 2011-12

[Lazarus]

Just a guess Gordon ...
..is the equilibrium point ...rear on to the wind direction ??

Funnily enough, I was outside checking where it had come to rest even as you enquired.

It is now edge on to the wind and presumably will auto-correct if there is a shift of wind direction.

Go figure!

 

[Vipersan]

Ok so I aimed east out towards the 68e area and the dish was violently moving and I didnt like the look of it so I`ve sent it back to 28 where a lot of the dish is exposed to the wind but it`s not rocking as bad

at least when it`s at 28 I`ll know it`s blew down when the TV stops working lol

Yep ..you probably found the 'sweet spot' ..relative to wind direction ...as this obviously can be deflected by a wall etc ...causing unforseen currents ..

In an Ideal world ..Id prefer to get mine at 90 degrees to the wind ....and rear on ...
..but of course the diseqc motors don't allow this ...so ...I compromise ..
Its a case of whatever works for you ..but wobble is imo the killer ...so finding a spot where this is minimal ..is probably key to dish survival ..
Good luck m8..
VS

 

[Vipersan]

Funnily enough, I was outside checking where it had come to rest even as you enquired.

It is now edge on to the wind and presumably will auto-correct if there is a shift of wind direction.

Go figure!

Thanks for investigating Gordon ...
It doesn't hurt to have as much info as possible ..
...and as Smoggy proved ...everyones setup is different ..
rgds
VS

 

[smoggy07]

Yep ..you probably found the 'sweet spot' ..relative to wind direction ...as this obviously can be deflected by a wall etc ...causing unforseen currents ..

In an Ideal world ..Id prefer to get mine at 90 degrees to the wind ....and rear on ...
..but of course the diseqc motors don't allow this ...so ...I compromise ..
Its a case of whatever works for you ..but wobble is imo the killer ...so finding a spot where this is minimal ..is probably key to dish survival ..
Good luck m8..
VS

I`m going to keep an eye on it and if I can may set up CCTV to watch it if the winds keep up tonight

I do have to go out to my doctors shortly though but I think SWMBO will call me to ask why the sky has gone off or to tell me the sky isnt working as she normally does lol

With a bit of luck though all these nasty trees and bushes that block our lines of sight might be blown down, at least one can hope lol

 

[Lazarus]

Thanks for investigating Gordon ...
It doesn't hurt to have as much info as possible ..
...and as Smoggy proved ...everyones setup is different ..
rgds
VS

Well I've been out again to investigate further and there are two air streams - one impinging directly and one deflected by an effective corner created by house/boiler house brickwork.

So, as you suggest, we must all plough our own furrow.


But, I agree with your disdain for "wobble" - it looks a lot worse than it probably is, though.

 

[aceb]

I'm in the rear end on camp too Before I went to work I left it parked on 68.5E, sadly when I got back home it wasn't picking anything up so I've moved it round to 62E and can see something has slipped about 2°. Ah well, day off tomorrow so if it calms down I'll realign it once I've worked out if it's the motor on the pole or the dish on the motor or both. Bleedin typical as it was spot on too. Next time we get a blow like this I may just take the reflector off for the day, 2 minutes with a screwdriver and spanner and I wont have to worry about it. Strongest gust down here today has been 60MPH which is nothing compared to oop north, I see todays stage of the cycling tour of Britain has been cancelled due to the weather.

 

[wod]

Left mine on 1west as the house is at an angle so the dish is side on.

Over the weekend I tried the back of dish to the wind and it was awful it moved about abit even though the wind wasn't as strong.

 

[aceb]

I don't really have any option other than to have quite a bit of pole above the gutter which tends to create a lot of wobble. I did think about guying the pole under the motor using some 500lb monofil and I also thought about drilling a couple of holes in the side rim of the Gib so I could tether it when it was this bad. I ended up doing neither as I suspect either or both could lead to bigger problems of the dish going out or even worse distorting, at least this way the pole takes some of the energy out of the gusts no matter how bad it looks.

 

[Captain Jack]

My dish is quite sheltered, so hopefully it's still on its pole. Was quite windy this morning and I didn't even turn on the TV.... Will check tonight

 

[Vipersan]

Currently not at the windiest point of the day ..gusts around 40 >50 mph ..
..was much worse earlier today ..

The TD110 is the one braced with a pole through the bathroom widow..
;)

rgds
VS

 

[Channel Hopper]

I noticed out of the corner of my eye that one paper yesterday was claiming an 'Arctic Freeze' on the way.

Has anyone heard this from elsewhere ?

 

[Captain Jack]

+1'C does not constitute an "Arctic Freeze"

 

[Lazarus]

Not heard that, no. But then again most predictions tend to be wholly wrong.

But at least I stocked up on Kerosene and got my Boiler up to scratch in good time: Price of Heating Oil has gone up 10% in the last week alone.

Still wearing T-shirt for now.

(And trousers)

 

[smoggy07]

I noticed they mentioned before the weather after the BBC 10pm news last night (or was it the local news after the 10pm news, yeah I think it was BBC look north northeast and cumbria) that we are going to get some of that snow they`ve had accross the pond in the u s of a

Apparently it`s not going to be as bad as over in the states but we are going to get some according to the Beeb

Strangely though they didn`t mention it on the local or national BBC weather though, they only mentioned the rain today

(I`ve got my rigger boots to hand to keep my feet warm if the snow does come lol)

 

[Lazarus]

My comment about Forecasts has proved correct in an unexpected way - we are experiencing an almighty thunderstorm here in t'Repooblic right now.

Lappie and Netbook on battery only - not sure whether to go the whole hog and unplug the Wireless Router.

It's warm, though. Ecky-thump.

 

[Vipersan]

Its that time again chaps ..
According to BBC weather ...
100mph winds out to the west over the next 24 -48 hours ...
Most of these really strong winds will be out to sea ...but Ireland will certainly experience gales ...
Northern Scotland wont get away lightly either ..
And some structural damaging winds most likely in the North West UK ...
Don't worry anyone in the South or near the capital ..
Shouldn't be more than a strong breeze down there ..
Not enough to ruffle HRHs headscarf...
rgds
VS

 

[Analoguesat]

The wind had picked up a bit by lunchtime here when I nipped out of work. Hope theres nothing too strong coming our way tho.

 

[Vipersan]

It may well seem calm at the moment where you are ..but the weather forcaster interviewed on the main news today (BBC) has emphasized that he hasn't issued a wind warning of this magnitude during his career ..

In truth I hope he's totally wrong about it ..........
Re shipping forcasts ..
I'd hate for someone to be unprepared and lose a much loved dish ..

Here is a list of shipping forcast areas from this morning..

Issued 24 November 05:05 UTC

The general synopsis at midnight
Low 400 miles west of Shannon 980 expected Southeast Iceland 944 by midnight tonight

Viking
Gale warning issued 24 November 03:49 UTC

Gale now ceased but southwesterly severe gale force 9 expected later

Wind Southwest 7 to severe gale 9, perhaps storm 10 later.
Sea State Very rough or high.
Weather Squally showers.
Visibility Good, occasionally poor.
North Utsire
Gale warning issued 24 November 03:49 UTC

Gale now ceased but southerly gale force 8 expected later

Wind Southwest 6 to gale 8, perhaps severe gale 9 later.
Sea State Rough or very rough.
Weather Rain.
Visibility Moderate.
South Utsire
Gale warning issued 24 November 03:49 UTC

Southwesterly gale force 8 expected later

Wind Southwest 6 to gale 8, perhaps severe gale 9 later.
Sea State Rough or very rough.
Weather Rain.
Visibility Moderate.
Forties
Gale warning issued 24 November 09:40 UTC

Southwestly gale force 8 expected soon

Wind Southwest 6 to gale 8, perhaps severe gale 9 later.
Sea State Rough or very rough.
Weather Rain.
Visibility Moderate.
Cromarty
Gale warning issued 24 November 09:40 UTC

Southwestly gale force 8 expected soon

Wind Southerly 6 to gale 8, occasionally severe gale 9.
Sea State Rough.
Weather Rain.
Visibility Moderate.
Forth
Gale warning issued 24 November 09:40 UTC

Southwestly gale force 8 expected soon

Wind Southerly 6 to gale 8.
Sea State Rough.
Weather Rain.
Visibility Moderate.
Tyne
Wind Southwest 5 to 7, perhaps gale 8 later.
Sea State Moderate or rough.
Weather Occasional rain.
Visibility Moderate or good.
Dogger
Wind Southwest 5 to 7, perhaps gale 8 later.
Sea State Moderate or rough.
Weather Occasional rain.
Visibility Moderate or good.
Fisher
Wind Southwest 5 to 7, perhaps gale 8 later.
Sea State Moderate or rough, occasionally very rough.
Weather Occasional rain.
Visibility Moderate or good.
German Bight
Wind Southwest 5 to 7, perhaps gale 8 later.
Sea State Moderate or rough, occasionally very rough.
Weather Occasional rain.
Visibility Moderate or good.
Humber
Wind Southwest 5 to 7, perhaps gale 8 later.
Sea State Moderate or rough.
Weather Occasional rain.
Visibility Moderate or good.
Thames
Wind Southwest 5 to 7, perhaps gale 8 later.
Sea State Moderate or rough.
Weather Occasional rain.
Visibility Moderate or good.
Dover
Wind Southwest 5 to 7, perhaps gale 8 later.
Sea State Moderate or rough.
Weather Occasional rain.
Visibility Moderate or good.
Wight
Wind Southwest 5 to 7.
Sea State Moderate or rough.
Weather Occasional rain.
Visibility Moderate or good.
Portland
Wind Southwest 5 to 7.
Sea State Moderate or rough.
Weather Occasional rain.
Visibility Moderate or good.
Plymouth
Wind Southwest 5 to 7.
Sea State Moderate or rough, occasionally very rough.
Weather Occasional rain.
Visibility Moderate or good.
Biscay
Gale warning issued 13 November 07:31 UTC

Southeasterly gale force 8 imminent

Wind Variable 4, becoming southwesterly 5 or 6 at times in north.
Sea State Rough.
Weather Mainly fair.
Visibility Moderate or good.
Trafalgar
Gale warning issued 24 November 03:49 UTC

Easterly gale force 8 imminent

Wind Easterly 5 to 7, perhaps gale 8 later in southeast, otherwise variable 4.
Sea State Moderate or rough.
Weather Showers.
Visibility Mainly good.
Trafalgar forecast issued 24 November 00:15 UTC

FitzRoy
Wind Mainly southwesterly 5 to 7, occasionally gale 8 at first.
Sea State Rough or very rough.
Weather Rain in north.
Visibility Moderate or good.
Sole
Gale warning issued 24 November 03:49 UTC

Southerly gale force 8 increasing severe gale force 9 imminent

Wind Southwest 6 to gale 8, occasionally severe gale 9.
Sea State Rough or very rough, occasionally high in west.
Weather Rain.
Visibility Moderate or good.
Lundy
Gale warning issued 23 November 15:45 UTC

Southwesterly gale force 8 expected later

Wind Southwest 6 to gale 8.
Sea State Rough or very rough.
Weather Rain.
Visibility Moderate or good.
Fastnet
Gale warning issued 23 November 15:45 UTC

Southwesterly gale force 8 expected later

Wind Southwest 6 to gale 8.
Sea State Rough or very rough.
Weather Rain.
Visibility Moderate or good.
Irish Sea
Gale warning issued 24 November 03:49 UTC

Southwesterly gale force 8 increasing severe gale force 9 soon

Wind Southwest 6 to gale 8, occasionally severe gale 9.
Sea State Rough or very rough.
Weather Rain.
Visibility Moderate or good.
Shannon
Gale warning issued 23 November 21:49 UTC

Southerly gale force 8 increasing storm force 10 soon

Wind Southwesterly 7 to severe gale 9, occasionally storm 10 in north.
Sea State Very rough or high.
Weather Rain.
Visibility Good, occasionally poor.
Rockall
Gale warning issued 24 November 03:49 UTC

Southerly gale force 8 increasing storm force 10 imminent, veering southwesterly and increasing hurricane force 12 soon

Wind South veering west severe gale 9 to violent storm 11, occasionally hurricane force 12.
Sea State High or very high.
Weather Rain.
Visibility Good, occasionally poor.
Malin
Gale warning issued 23 November 15:45 UTC

Gale now ceased, but southerly storm force 10 expected later

Wind Southwesterly gale 8 to storm 10.
Sea State High becoming very high.
Weather Rain or squally showers.
Visibility Good, occasionally poor.
Hebrides
Gale warning issued 24 November 09:40 UTC

Violent storm force 11 veering southwesterly and increasing hurricane force 12 soon

Wind Southwesterly gale 8 to storm 10, occasionally violent storm 11, perhaps hurricane force 12 later in northwest.
Sea State High becoming very high, occasionally phenomenal later in north.
Weather Rain or squally showers.
Visibility Good, occasionally poor.
Bailey
Gale warning issued 23 November 15:45 UTC

Gale force 8 backing southeasterly soon, veering southwesterly and increasing hurricane force 12 later

Wind South 6 to gale 8, becoming cyclonic storm 10 to hurricane force 12.
Sea State High or very high, occasionally phenomenal in east.
Weather Rain or squally showers.
Visibility Good, occasionally poor.
Fair Isle
Gale warning issued 24 November 09:40 UTC

Southerly storm force 10 increasing violent storm force 11 soon

Wind South veering west 6 to gale 8, increasing severe gale 9 or storm 10, perhaps violent storm 11 later.
Sea State High becoming very high.
Weather Rain or squally showers.
Visibility Good, occasionally poor.
Faeroes
Gale warning issued 24 November 09:40 UTC

Violent storm force 11 veering southwesterly and increasing hurricane force 12 soon

Wind Southwest 6 to gale 8, becoming cyclonic severe gale 9 to violent storm 11, perhaps hurricane force 12 later.
Sea State High or very high, occasionally phenomenal.
Weather Rain or squally showers.
Visibility Good, occasionally poor.
Southeast Iceland
Gale warning issued 24 November 09:40 UTC

Northeasterly severe gale force 9 backing northwesterly and increasing violent storm force 11 soon

Wind Southwest becoming cyclonic 6 to gale 8, increasing severe gale 9 or storm 10, perhaps violent storm 11 later.
Sea State Very rough or high.
Weather Rain.
Visibility Good, occasionally poor.

 

[sonnetpete]

Thanks VS (Michael Fish?) It's mainly the Biscay and Plymouth areas that affect me and thankfully it doesn't seem as severe there. I pity those living in the North and West though, especially the Hebrides. I've never seen 'hurricane force' mentioned in a forecast before.

 

[Channel Hopper]

The latest report suggests the cyclone may drop to 950 millibars by the close of business.

Time to strap everything down tight (as Max Mosley might have said - allegedly).