Karen Murphy - ECJ Judgement Due/Delivered

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Robbo said:
The premier league are not independent though, so whatever they say is biassed.


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Exactly! Of course the FAPL will continue to threaten and use the fear factor. Again, however, if the FAPL says it is a criminal matter too the question still remains: under what law are they now going to prosecute pubs using European-based provider subs?

Let us clarify the issue a little.

1. Criminal matter: we wait to see under what law the FAPL wants to prosecute/criminalise pubs using EU-based provider subs. :)

2. Civil matter:
(a) there are ways that pubs can use EU-based provider subs without violating FAPL copyright; if a pub can achieve this, there is llareggub that the FAPL can do about it;
(b) even if a pub violates FAPL copyright, the primary remedy is in an award of damages ---- here we wait the outcome of the Patent court's decision on how much will be awarded against QC Leisure etc; the fact that the matter has been kicked to the Patents court is an indication that the amount will be relatively low; further, the court in the last judgment said already that copyright violation in the case was only to a "limited extent";
(c) what can be an effective remedy is an injunction --- here again the court indicated that it was disposed against an injunction and could be satisfied with an undertaking from QC Leisure etc;
(d) one significant thing to worry about if sued by the FAPL would be legal costs --- but then again that could be covered by appropriate insurance.
 

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This article explains everything...

_http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2012/feb/24/pub-landlady-karen-murphy-premier-league?newsfeed=true

Pub landlady Karen Murphy has won a legal battle at the high court in London to overturn her conviction for using a cut-price Greek satellite decoder to air premierleague football matches.
Murphy has spent six years fighting a prosecution involving £8,000 in fines and costs for bypassing BSkyB's official Premier League satellite feed to show matches cheaply at her Red, White and Blue pub in Southampton.
On Friday the high court quashed her conviction because the Premier League had won its original case on the basis that Murphy was illegally airing the body's games copyrighted for use solely in Greece.

Rest of story can be found on the link

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Not really, as again quotes are from a biassed viewpoint.


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Robbo said:
Not really, as again quotes are from a biassed viewpoint.


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Should have posted the source....Not biased based on source...

=http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2012/feb/24/pub-landlady-karen-murphy-premier-league?newsfeed=true



EDIT - please dont post live links to outside sites :)
 

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The quotes within it are biased I.e a spokesman from the premier league/ a spokesman from sky etc etc, said this that or the other. They can say what they like, doesn't make it fact.


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When asked is she would be showing football from a foreign decoder on sateurday Karen said "we shall have to wait and see"
So did she?
Was there pub full of reporters and lawyers and FA officials?
 

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Interesting for comparison: The Hobbits vs The Orcs

_http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2114365/The-battle-Middle-Earth-Enterprises--British-pub-called-The-Hobbit-20-years-sued-Hollywood-giant-use-name.html

A pub that has been called The Hobbit for more than 20 years is embroiled in a legal battle with Hollywood over its name.

The themed bar in Southampton has become the target of legal action by a U.S. film company in what is being described as 'a war between the Hobbits and the orcs.'

Middle-earth Enterprises, which owns many of the rights to author J.R.R. Tolkien’s work, claims the pub is profiting from its apparent connection with the franchise.

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From Urban Dictionary

Hobbit
v. to shave off pubic hair in the shower, leaving it to stick to the feet of the next person in the shower.

Dude, my brother inlaw shaved his pubers in the shower and left them there. Now they are all over my feet.

You have just beeen hobbited.
 
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