NS2000 (NS3)

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feed army

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Please Can you test these freq is it NS3 or not
7.0 East
11075 V 60000
ID: LK ENC 1
PROVIDER: CM5000
 
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11074 V,60000,2/3,Dvb-S2/16APSK-LK Enc1(not in NS3)
 

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11074 V,60000,2/3,Dvb-S2/16APSK-LK Enc1(not in NS3)
Are you sure friend that it's not NS3 ? Because it is working with a high SR .. 2 days ago a feed apperaed on 11075 V 48000 with name like NS3 they were : 4GVs6 S1 / 4GVs7 S2
 
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Satellite reception between 100.5E-50.0W
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Are you sure friend that it's not NS3 ? Because it is working with a high SR .. 2 days ago a feed apperaed on 11075 V 48000 with name like NS3 they were : 4GVs6 S1 / 4GVs7 S2
I'm sure of it,as you can see from screensh.Probably you're using a device that doesn't know 16APSK mode or a symbol rate over 45000 Ks. Or you have a weak signal,under 10dB?
I used tbs6983 card for this transponder.
 

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feed army

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I'm sure of it,as you can see from screensh.Probably you're using a device that doesn't know 16APSK mode or a symbol rate over 45000 Ks. Or you have a weak signal,under 10dB?
I used tbs6983 card for this transponder.
I have news that Starsat added NS3 to her device SR2000 hyper .. i know that this feed isn't NS3 as you said .. but feed appeared from 2 Days with Freq 11075 V 48000 with provider EBUER .. i tried it on many receiver that accept 60000SR max but worked only on 2000 Hyper .. The feed was 4:2:2 his name was ID: 4GVs6 S1 and 4GVs7 S2 .. and was broadcasting promo for EBUER same on 11098 H 7200 ..
 
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That appears to be a fairly elderly receiver ( around 5-6 years old??
Yes i know that .. but the are testing on it because he is the most receiver from starsat that have stability .. please if you have any feed NS3 send it to me please we want to test .. but i have question .. why these feed appeaered now with DVB-S2 16APSK .. i never saw them .. i know that 16APSK is used with NS3/NS4 .. can you explain that point?

Here's the feed that appeared from 2 days received_3476866349011890-1.jpg
 
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I would be AMAZED if they managed to get NS3 decoded on an elderly receiver. Unless you have certain evidence its being tried I would suggest someone is having fun winding up the hopeful folk.

The feed names are irrelevant - they will just be a code between the uplink van and the studio processing the feed. No clue whatsoever they are NS3/4.

The best way to finds out about these feeds is just look at the feeds sites & keep an eye on this thread. However there are VERY few hobbyists equipped for these transmission formats so dont expect news of lots of feeds to pop up. Feedsat DXer is one of the lucky ones with access to this superb kit.
 
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I would be AMAZED if they managed to get NS3 decoded on an elderly receiver. Unless you have certain evidence its being tried I would suggest someone is having fun winding up the hopeful folk.

The feed names are irrelevant - they will just be a code between the uplink van and the studio processing the feed. No clue whatsoever they are NS3/4.

The best way to finds out about these feeds is just look at the feeds sites & keep an eye on this thread. However there are VERY few hobbyists equipped for these transmission formats so dont expect news of lots of feeds to pop up. Feedsat DXer is one of the lucky ones with access to this superb kit.
Yes friend i unders5and that but have you an info about these feeds that apperaed with DVB-S2 16APSK with a high SR ? is this the first time?
 
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Is that NS3 OR NS4? .. he is active now
10E
11388 H 33000 16APSK
 
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Is that NS3 OR NS4? .. he is active now
10E
11388 H 33000 16APSK

I tried the frequency you provided in both NS3 and NS4 modes on an NS2000 demodulator and it was in and out of sync all the time. I switched the NS2000 demodulator to DVB-S2X mode and it locked immdiately and kept the lock constantly.

Note:
I was using a 1.5m dish for the scan with a DRO LNB. It really should have been a larger dish with a PLL LNB to analyse this signal in more detail. The NS2000 demodulator might be syncing the signal simply because I selected DVB-S2X and when I select NS3 or NS4 modes there is not enough stable signal for a lock coming from the 1.5m dish.

If "Feedsat" looks in I am sure he can provide more information than I can, he is the expert on this topic.

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I tried the frequency you provided in both NS3 and NS4 modes on an NS2000 demodulator and it was in and out of sync all the time. I switched the NS2000 demodulator to DVB-S2X mode and it locked immdiately and kept the lock constantly.

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Ok but it's first time appear feed DVB-S2 16 APSK with a high SR or they appeard in last time?
 
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Yes friend i unders5and that but have you an info about these feeds that apperaed with DVB-S2 16APSK with a high SR ? is this the first time?
Havent got the faintest idea - I have no real interest in NS3/4 - my kit barely does HD :-rofl2
 
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False info... the Starsat 2000 Hyper won't even lock on that frequency with the alleged firmware for NS3. Don't even think it has the 2SX tuner!!
 
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You don't understand my idea.. have you any Idea about DVB-S2 APSK16 feeds? Are they going to uograde normal feeds from 8APSK to 16APSK ?
 
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You don't understand my idea.. have you any Idea about DVB-S2 APSK16 feeds? Are they going to uograde normal feeds from 8APSK to 16APSK ?
NOBODY here knows what the future plans of the broadcast uplinkers may be. You seem to be under the impression we are all employed by broadcast companies. Virtually everyone is a keen enthusiast - nothing more
 
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You don't understand my idea.. have you any Idea about DVB-S2 APSK16 feeds? Are they going to uograde normal feeds from 8APSK to 16APSK ?
Yes..I view them quite a lot!
 
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OK enough discussion of this topic. No more questions or off topic discussions. Lets get back to our posters with access to the signals carry on letting us know whats up there.
 
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Is that NS3 OR NS4? .. he is active now
10E
11388 H 33000 16APSK
This is an "old" active frequency (July 2017) this is Eumetcast, a DVBS2 modulation, nothing special.
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