rai change tp 14 december 2021

[solly]

On the night of December 13-14 this year. there will be some changes to Rai transponders. One of the more important will be to disable most of the broadcaster's SD channels. Below we present what exactly will change.


From the transponder No. 124 of the Eutelsat Hot Bird 13C (13 ° E) satellite with a frequency of 10.992 GHz, pol. V, SR: 27500, FEC: 2/3; DVB-S / QPSK will be removed: Rai 4, Rai 5, Rai Movie, Rai Premium, Rai Sport, Rai Storia, Rai News 24, Rai Gulp, Rai YoYo and Rai Scuola. They will be replaced by: Rai Storia HD, Rai Scuola HD and Rai Premium HD (transferred from TP No. 125).

On the transponder No. 125 of the Eutelsat Hot Bird 13C (13 ° E) satellite with a frequency of 11.013 GHz, pol. H, SR: 29900, FEC: 3/4; DVB-S2 / 8PSK in the place of the stations: Rai Storia HD, Rai Scuola HD and Rai Premium HD (transfer to TP No. 124) will appear Rai Sport + HD (transfer from TP No. 52)

On the transponder No. 52 of the Eutelsat Hot Bird 13C satellite (13 ° E)with a frequency of 11.766 GHz, pol. V, SR: 29900, FEC: 3/4; DVB-S2 / 8PSK bitrate remaining after removing Rai Sport + HD will be used to improve the quality of stations currently broadcasting there.

Viewers count on an improvement in quality, because since the addition of the complete set of regional versions of Rai 3, the broadcaster has faced considerable criticism due to the huge decline in the technical quality of the channels due to their overpopulation. On tp. 125 there were as many as 7 HD and 24 SD channels. After the changes, the number of HD channels on this transponder will be reduced to 5. For years, Rai has been a model indicated by viewers as caring for the highest technical quality, so when the stations were "stuffed" on transponders, viewers paid attention to it.

Technical parameters (from 14.12):
Eutelsat Hot Bird 13C (13 ° E)
tp. 124 (10.992 GHz, pol. V, SR: 27500, FEC: 2/3; DVB-S / QPSK)

● Rai 1
● Rai 2
● Rai 3
● Rai Storia HD (added)
● Rai Scuola HD (added)
● Rai Premium HD (added)
● Rai 4 (removed)
● Rai 5 (removed)
● Rai Movie (removed)
● Rai Premium (deleted)
● Rai Sport (deleted)
● Rai Storia (deleted)
● Rai News 24 (deleted)
● Rai Gulp (deleted)
● Rai YoYo (deleted)
● Rai Scuola(deleted)
● Camera deputati
● Senato

Eutelsat Hot Bird 13C (13 ° E)
tp. 125 (11.013 GHz, pol. H, SR: 29900, FEC: 3/4; DVB-S2 / 8PSK)

● Rai Premium HD (deleted)
● Rai Storia HD (deleted)
● Rai Scuola HD (deleted)
● Rai Sport + HD (added)
● Rai 5 HD
● Rai Gulp HD
● Rai YoYo HD
● Rai News 24 HD
● Rai 3 TGR Valle D'Aosta
● Rai 3 TGR Piemonte
● Rai 3 TGR Lombardia
● Rai 3 TGR Veneto
● Rai 3 TGR Trentino
● Rai 3 TGR Alto Adige
● Rai 3 Südtirol
● Rai 3 TGR FVG
● Rai 3 Bis
● Rai 3 TGR Liguria
● Rai 3 TGR Emilia Romagna
● Rai 3 TGR Toscana
● Rai 3 TGR Marche
● Rai 3 TGR Umbria
● Rai 3 TGR Lazio
● Rai 3 TGR Abruzzo
● Rai 3 TGR Molise
● Rai 3 TGR Campania
● Rai 3 TGR Basilicata
● Rai 3 TGR Puglia
● Rai 3 TGR Calabria
● Rai 3 TGR Sicilia
● Rai 3 TGR Sardegna
● Uninettuno University TV

Eutelsat Hot Bird 13C (13 ° E)
tp. 52 (11.766 GHz, pol. V, SR: 29900, FEC: 3/4; DVB-S2 / 8PSK)

● Rai 1 HD
● Rai 2 HD
● Rai 3 HD
● Rai 4 HD
● Rai Movie HD
● Rai Sport + HD (deleted)
● Rai 4K
● Rai Radio 1
● Rai Radio 2
● Rai Radio 3
● Rai Radio Tutta Italiana
● Rai Radio Techete '
● Rai Radio Live
● Rai Radio Kids
● Rai Isoradio
● Rai GrParlamento
● Rai Radio1 Sport
● Rai Radio2 India
● Rai Radio3 Classica
● Rai OM Unica
● Rai Radio Trst A

 

[rodscha]

Grazie mille per l' aggiornamento!!

so ,which Rai will remain FTA as they they are today?
Will we keep rai 1,2,3SD as they are now?
Or will we enjoy them in HD?
I'm asking because the 11992 is not fully fta.now
If all we read is FTA it'll be marvelous!!

 

[Lazarus]

Grazie mille per l' aggiornamento!!

so ,which Rai will remain FTA as they they are today?
Will we keep rai 1,2,3SD as they are now?
Or will we enjoy them in HD?
I'm asking because the 11992 is not fully fta.now
If all we read is FTA it'll be marvelous!!

The HD versions of Rai 1,2,3 and a couple of others are FTA on 5W Multistream.

 

[rodscha]

nnoooooo the bloody multistreams block it... at least for average users!
Comag doesnt make a multistream compatible receiver
I mean,FTA not behind multistream wall!

 

[rodscha]

or has it changed on 5W? Up to now you get the ridiculous "vosges tv" and KTO that s it!

 

[Lazarus]

nnoooooo the bloody multistreams block it... at least for average users!
Comag doesnt make a multistream compatible receiver
I mean,FTA not behind multistream wall!

Multistream capable receivers are very inexpensive ...... My wife has had great value from her Edision Primo

 

[rodscha]

was she able to use it without a lengthy lesson of aplied electronics?

 

[rodscha]

and will the new rai use the SAME sort of multistream as 5W?

 

[rodscha]

so,which Edision Primo should I look for?
Thank you,I should try one

 

[ozumo]

The Octagon SX88+ is preferable to the Primo as it still receives updates and is available new.

A Tivusat card might be a better option.

 

[rodscha]

tivusat only gives Italy
another question,is Multistream a deep trend,will most "interesting " tv institutions,s like Germany,France,Italy,Spain ,UK follow this and be behind multistreams? or only France for expats & Italy?

 

[rodscha]

in which case it becomes a mainstream thing to have ...

 

[ozumo]

Unless you can receive the 9°E Italy beam then Tivusat will provide more Italian channels. Don't think there are any UK or German multistreams on satellite. They aren't intended for home reception either.

 

[rodscha]

i wonder what they are intended for btw... any idea?

 

[ozumo]

i wonder what they are intended for btw... any idea?

They are used to feed terrestrial transmitters.

 

[rodscha]

so all nations using sats for tv should have multistreams
so we could get scandinavia etc...

 

[Lexzie]

Every country/distributor is free to choose which way they distribute their signals.
Most will use fiber, others will just receive the signals from the "normal" DTH satellite distribution.
UK uses 27.5W for some transmitters, Italy/France/Spain/Bulgaria/? use multistream via satellite.
Others IPTV via DVB data-signals, who knows?

For Italian signals I would invest in a multistream capable receiver: Dreambox, VU+, Octagon, Edison, Mut@nt, Xsarius, GigaBlue and more have some receivers capable of receiving multistream.
On the other hand a one-time investment in a TivùSat card is also not that expensive.

 

[rodscha]

among those youquoted which would be easier to get?
Edision seems to be unavailable ,or only second hand (is that a "grey" market of some sort?)
...anything newer on the market?
As to Octagon ,the thread about it is so long I' m at a loss as to
-which to buy
-how to use it?
i 'd like to record stuff,either with in built PVR or USB hard drive/stick

 

[Lazarus]

was she able to use it without a lengthy lesson of aplied electronics?

No different to selecting a Channel on any other receiver.

 

[rodscha]

wonderful then! I googled it,came back with "unlieferbar"(=un deliverable)on a German site, or second hand on Amazon...