Upgrading help - octagon sf8008 s2x twin vs vu+ zero 4k

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HI All,

I have a aging Vu+ Uno (over 6 years old).

I am going to re-setup a new multisat (Wave T-55) dish with 5 lnbs!

Going 4k and wanted your thoughts on the Octagon SF8008 as I am looking at apps like kodi, stalker etc., to have on the newer box (along side Sats)

Unsure is the Vu+ can have these extra apps loaded on, but work as well as the Octagon (pros&cons).

On the flip side the scanning power on the Vu+, I think might be better than the Octagon as I normally use the DiSEqC 1.0 / 1.1 / 1.2, USALS features to setup my lnbs from the dish (not motor).

I can't find any info on the diseqc features on the Octagon, it just mentions blindscan.

Just some advice, if the Octagon can handle a multisat setup or is the Zero 4K is a better bet (if they can load apps like above on the side and they work well)!

Hope than makes sense, will save me buying another box, if one box can do both.

Cheers
 

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I have the Zero 4K and Octagon SF8008. The Zero 4K is good but the Octagon is imo better. They both have the same Enigma 2 features, DiSEqC 1.0 / 1.1 / 1.2, USALS etc. It is more to do with the image that is loaded and it can be a steep learning curve.
 

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Cheers for that,

The diseqc question answered, helps to narrow things down a bit.

The image will play a big part in the loading of apps, current setup had openli image!

I will look into what the Oct works with and check if I have used any of them before
 

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Currently 56 satellites, 61°West to 57°East.

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Recycled as the owner.
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I did not see the post, in case you need any information.
The handling of similar antennas.
The VU + Zero4K 1 tuner.
The Octagon SF8008 Twin? 2 tuner.
You need a splitter to give signal from tuner A to tuner B.

The VU + Zero4K.- The blind search does not work, it does not find high band channels since it was put on sale.
The tuner is good, but it measures more signal than it has, even without an antenna.
Very limited in codec to reproduce old files, the new ones fine, but the old .avi files that the VU + one reproduces, does not reproduce them, only audio.

Octagon SF8008 Tinw, after 3 years the blind search almost works well.
The subject of handling antennas, fixed, motor, same as VU +.
Verified with DiSEqC 4x1 and 9x1 (DiSeqC 1.1 / 2-0), also with usals (DiSeqC 1.3).
The theme of video files and more, octagon wins.

Openpli also has a version for the octagon, so it is literally the same and everything is in the same place, it is done the same.
Removing that you now use a chip arm, but you already have oscam and cccam.
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No vi el post, por si necesitas algun dato.
El manejo de las antenas similares.
El VU+Zero4K 1 tuner.
El Octagon SF8008 Twin? 2 tuner.
Necesitas splitter para dar señal del tuner A al tuner B.

El VU+Zero4K.- No funciona la busqueda ciega, no encuentra canales de la banda alta desde que se puso a la venta.
El sintonizador es bueno, pero mide mas señal de la que tiene, incluso sin antena.
Muy limitado en codec para reproducir viejos ficheros, los nuevos bien, pero los viejos ficheros.avi que reproduce el VU+uno, no los reproduce, solo audio.

Octagon SF8008 Tinw, despues de 3 años ya casi funciona bien la busqueda ciega.
El tema de manejo de antenas, fijas, motor, igual que VU+.
Verificado con DiSEqC 4x1 y 9x1(DiSeqC 1.1/2-0), tambien con usals (DiSeqC 1.3).
El tema de ficheros de video y mas, octagon gana.

Openpli tambien tiene version para el octagon, asi literalmente es lo mismo y esta todo en el mismo sitio, se hace igual.
Quitando que ahora usas chip arm, pero ya tienes oscam y cccam.
 

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Many thanks for this as a few other house jobs took over and got delayed in buying.

But this of most help as a few people have commented on the Vu+ blind search and the octagon has a few things going for it.

I can get a twin lnb for the tuner a & b for the octagon for 28e!

Cheers


I did not see the post, in case you need any information.
The handling of similar antennas.
The VU + Zero4K 1 tuner.
The Octagon SF8008 Twin? 2 tuner.
You need a splitter to give signal from tuner A to tuner B.

The VU + Zero4K.- The blind search does not work, it does not find high band channels since it was put on sale.
The tuner is good, but it measures more signal than it has, even without an antenna.
Very limited in codec to reproduce old files, the new ones fine, but the old .avi files that the VU + one reproduces, does not reproduce them, only audio.

Octagon SF8008 Tinw, after 3 years the blind search almost works well.
The subject of handling antennas, fixed, motor, same as VU +.
Verified with DiSEqC 4x1 and 9x1 (DiSeqC 1.1 / 2-0), also with usals (DiSeqC 1.3).
The theme of video files and more, octagon wins.

Openpli also has a version for the octagon, so it is literally the same and everything is in the same place, it is done the same.
Removing that you now use a chip arm, but you already have oscam and cccam.
----------------------------
No vi el post, por si necesitas algun dato.
El manejo de las antenas similares.
El VU+Zero4K 1 tuner.
El Octagon SF8008 Twin? 2 tuner.
Necesitas splitter para dar señal del tuner A al tuner B.

El VU+Zero4K.- No funciona la busqueda ciega, no encuentra canales de la banda alta desde que se puso a la venta.
El sintonizador es bueno, pero mide mas señal de la que tiene, incluso sin antena.
Muy limitado en codec para reproducir viejos ficheros, los nuevos bien, pero los viejos ficheros.avi que reproduce el VU+uno, no los reproduce, solo audio.

Octagon SF8008 Tinw, despues de 3 años ya casi funciona bien la busqueda ciega.
El tema de manejo de antenas, fijas, motor, igual que VU+.
Verificado con DiSEqC 4x1 y 9x1(DiSeqC 1.1/2-0), tambien con usals (DiSeqC 1.3).
El tema de ficheros de video y mas, octagon gana.

Openpli tambien tiene version para el octagon, asi literalmente es lo mismo y esta todo en el mismo sitio, se hace igual.
Quitando que ahora usas chip arm, pero ya tienes oscam y cccam.
 

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Currently 56 satellites, 61°West to 57°East.

Octagon SF8008 4K Twin, VU+Duo², VU+Ultimo4K.
Recycled as the owner.
My Location
North of Madrid (28703 Spain) -3Km of IKEA (40.545847, -3.612012).:-)
I have VU + DUO2 to use with blind search and wanted to retire.
Buy the VU + Zero4K.
It has been in the drawer of useless junk for more than 3 years, I take it out, I see if with the new update they solved the problem and nothing.
It finds the tp / frequencies well, but then when it has to search for the channels, it does not send the order for the LNB to work in the high band with the 22Khz tone and of course, it does not find channels.

The octagon SF8008 Twin, I bought it a few months later, then I had very big problems with the blind search.
After more than 3 years, it is improving little by little and every day they improve.
The search is very precise (data ok), minimum SR very good and heard almost good.
Currently it only has problems with tp / 32/16 APSK frequencies which are normally data channels, now it stops and the search does not continue.
If you select to find the tp / frequencies and then remove them by hand, you will no longer have problems.
In Hispasat, 3-5 tp's are the ones that cause problems.

From the UK you will have no problems and you will be able to locate the technical links of sporting events and of some Spanish channels that you have from 12500Mhz.
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Tengo VU+DUO2 para usar con busqueda cieja y queria jubilar.
Compre el VU+Zero4K.
Esta en el cajon de los trastos inutiles desde hace mas de 3 años, lo saco, miro si con la nueva actualizacion solucionaron el problema y nada.
Encuentra bien los tp/frecuencias, pero luego cuando tiene que buscar los canales, no manda la orden para que el LNB trabaje en banda alta con el tono de 22Khz y claro, no encuentra canales.

El octagon SF8008 Twin, lo compre unos meses mas tarde, entonces tenia problemas muy gordos con la busqueda ciega.
Despues de mas de 3 años, va mejorando poco a poco y cada dia mejoran.
La busqueda es muy precisa (datos ok), SR minimo muy bueno y oido casi bueno.
Actualmente solo tiene problemas con tp/frecuencias 32/16 APSK que normalmente son canales de datos, ahora se para y no continua la busqueda.
Si seleccionas que busque los tp/frecuencias y luego los quitas a mano, ya no tendras problemas.
En Hispasat, son 3-5 tp's los que dan problema.

Desde UK no tendras problemas y podras localizar los enlaces tecnicos de eventos deportivos y de algunas cadenas española que tienes apartir de 12500Mhz.
 

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I have VU + DUO2 to use with blind search and wanted to retire.
Buy the VU + Zero4K.
It has been in the drawer of useless junk for more than 3 years, I take it out, I see if with the new update they solved the problem and nothing.
It finds the tp / frequencies well, but then when it has to search for the channels, it does not send the order for the LNB to work in the high band with the 22Khz tone and of course, it does not find channels.

The octagon SF8008 Twin, I bought it a few months later, then I had very big problems with the blind search.
After more than 3 years, it is improving little by little and every day they improve.
The search is very precise (data ok), minimum SR very good and heard almost good.
Currently it only has problems with tp / 32/16 APSK frequencies which are normally data channels, now it stops and the search does not continue.
If you select to find the tp / frequencies and then remove them by hand, you will no longer have problems.
In Hispasat, 3-5 tp's are the ones that cause problems.

From the UK you will have no problems and you will be able to locate the technical links of sporting events and of some Spanish channels that you have from 12500Mhz.
---------------------------
Tengo VU+DUO2 para usar con busqueda cieja y queria jubilar.
Compre el VU+Zero4K.
Esta en el cajon de los trastos inutiles desde hace mas de 3 años, lo saco, miro si con la nueva actualizacion solucionaron el problema y nada.
Encuentra bien los tp/frecuencias, pero luego cuando tiene que buscar los canales, no manda la orden para que el LNB trabaje en banda alta con el tono de 22Khz y claro, no encuentra canales.

El octagon SF8008 Twin, lo compre unos meses mas tarde, entonces tenia problemas muy gordos con la busqueda ciega.
Despues de mas de 3 años, va mejorando poco a poco y cada dia mejoran.
La busqueda es muy precisa (datos ok), SR minimo muy bueno y oido casi bueno.
Actualmente solo tiene problemas con tp/frecuencias 32/16 APSK que normalmente son canales de datos, ahora se para y no continua la busqueda.
Si seleccionas que busque los tp/frecuencias y luego los quitas a mano, ya no tendras problemas.
En Hispasat, son 3-5 tp's los que dan problema.

Desde UK no tendras problemas y podras localizar los enlaces tecnicos de eventos deportivos y de algunas cadenas española que tienes apartir de 12500Mhz.
Also SX88 firmware can now be used on the SF8008, which is better for DXers in my opinion, plus you can boot up in either that or E2 with multiboot.
 

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Thanks for the information

many people have commented on the blind search and it looks like the octagon is better by a little bit.

I am think in this price range battle between them 2, the blind search was not going to be the best compared to expensive higher Vu+'s!




I have VU + DUO2 to use with blind search and wanted to retire.
Buy the VU + Zero4K.
It has been in the drawer of useless junk for more than 3 years, I take it out, I see if with the new update they solved the problem and nothing.
It finds the tp / frequencies well, but then when it has to search for the channels, it does not send the order for the LNB to work in the high band with the 22Khz tone and of course, it does not find channels.

The octagon SF8008 Twin, I bought it a few months later, then I had very big problems with the blind search.
After more than 3 years, it is improving little by little and every day they improve.
The search is very precise (data ok), minimum SR very good and heard almost good.
Currently it only has problems with tp / 32/16 APSK frequencies which are normally data channels, now it stops and the search does not continue.
If you select to find the tp / frequencies and then remove them by hand, you will no longer have problems.
In Hispasat, 3-5 tp's are the ones that cause problems.

From the UK you will have no problems and you will be able to locate the technical links of sporting events and of some Spanish channels that you have from 12500Mhz.
---------------------------
Tengo VU+DUO2 para usar con busqueda cieja y queria jubilar.
Compre el VU+Zero4K.
Esta en el cajon de los trastos inutiles desde hace mas de 3 años, lo saco, miro si con la nueva actualizacion solucionaron el problema y nada.
Encuentra bien los tp/frecuencias, pero luego cuando tiene que buscar los canales, no manda la orden para que el LNB trabaje en banda alta con el tono de 22Khz y claro, no encuentra canales.

El octagon SF8008 Twin, lo compre unos meses mas tarde, entonces tenia problemas muy gordos con la busqueda ciega.
Despues de mas de 3 años, va mejorando poco a poco y cada dia mejoran.
La busqueda es muy precisa (datos ok), SR minimo muy bueno y oido casi bueno.
Actualmente solo tiene problemas con tp/frecuencias 32/16 APSK que normalmente son canales de datos, ahora se para y no continua la busqueda.
Si seleccionas que busque los tp/frecuencias y luego los quitas a mano, ya no tendras problemas.
En Hispasat, son 3-5 tp's los que dan problema.

Desde UK no tendras problemas y podras localizar los enlaces tecnicos de eventos deportivos y de algunas cadenas española que tienes apartir de 12500Mhz.
 

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Also SX88 firmware can now be used on the SF8008, which is better for DXers in my opinion, plus you can boot up in either that or E2 with multiboot.


I might try that early next week since the SF8008 has the capability hardware wise, but the software and command structure is a right pain.

Is it compatible with the dual T2/S2 combo machine ?
 

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Also SX88 firmware can now be used on the SF8008, which is better for DXers in my opinion, plus you can boot up in either that or E2 with multiboot.

I will look into this and check what's the best firmware, if i can use more than one
 

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I might try that early next week since the SF8008 has the capability hardware wise, but the software and command structure is a right pain.

Is it compatible with the dual T2/S2 combo machine ?

What firmware do you use at the moment? I think vix, atv or another few where available.

Just happy with one that will cover multi stats (up to 6) and the iptv apps
 

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Yes, that is the one I have got, no tried the T2 side, but it is there in the menus.
I might try that early next week since the SF8008 has the capability hardware wise, but the software and command structure is a right pain.

Is it compatible with the dual T2/S2 combo machine ?
,
 

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What firmware do you use at the moment? I think vix, atv or another few where available.

Just happy with one that will cover multi stats (up to 6) and the iptv apps
OpenATV
 

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hi
I was also thinking about vu + zero 4k
the use that I will give it will be in band C

1 my question is if you have a good blind scan to find feeds channels

2 or if it supports T2MI
 

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hi
I was also thinking about vu + zero 4k
the use that I will give it will be in band C

1 my question is if you have a good blind scan to find feeds channels

2 or if it supports T2MI


I think, a few people have mentioned the blind scan above as not being the best - the T2MI - i am not sure
 
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