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Today the 100% official change is made, the new tp52 1010758V2200 2/3 DVB-S2/8PSK is activated.
The old tp 16 11436V22000 2/3 DVB-S2/8PSK the channels are already unnamed, it still broadcasts and can be seen (with the corresponding subscription).
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Hoy ya se realiza el cambio oficial 100%, el nuevo tp52 1010758V2200 2/3 DVB-S2/8PSK esta activado.
El viejo tp 16 11436V22000 2/3 DVB-S2/8PSK ya están sin nombre los canales, todavía emite y se pueden ver (con el correspondiente abono).
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Today the 100% official change is made, the new tp52 1010758V2200 2/3 DVB-S2/8PSK is activated.
The old tp 16 11436V22000 2/3 DVB-S2/8PSK the channels are already unnamed, it still broadcasts and can be seen (with the corresponding subscription).
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Hoy ya se realiza el cambio oficial 100%, el nuevo tp52 1010758V2200 2/3 DVB-S2/8PSK esta activado.
El viejo tp 16 11436V22000 2/3 DVB-S2/8PSK ya están sin nombre los canales, todavía emite y se pueden ver (con el correspondiente abono).
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we hope more tp move to dvbs2 next year
 

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Why does Movistar keep moving around its encrypted programs? just wondering...
 

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we hope more tp move to dvbs2 next year
It really is not known what Movistar+ wants to do with the Astra satellite at 19'2ºE.
All these movements started in October, suddenly HD channels appeared that end with a dot (.) without further ado.
Since they did not prepare replacement channels, the truth is that they were very lost.

Satellite subscribers were not told anything.

On November 14, around 10:00 Madrid time (GMT+2), the change was activated, it left me without a signal in several recordings, the one at 9 o'clock fine, but the second episode of the day, black.
Only the installers were given a brief information note, which is not enough.

"Dear collaborator, Today and the next few days, a list of Satellite TV channels that currently broadcast in HD will start broadcasting in SD resolution.
You can see the list of channels below." I posted the photo days ago.
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De verdad que no se sabe que quiere hacer Movistar+ con el satelite Astra a 19'2ºE.
Todos estos movimientos empezaron en Octubre, de repente aparecieron canales HD que terminan con un punto (.) sin mas.
Como no prepararon canales de remplazo, pues muy perdidos la verdad.
A los abonados al satelite no se les dijo nada.

El día 14 de noviembre, sobre las 10:00 hora de Madrid (GMT+2), se activo el cambio, me dejo sin señal en varias grabaciones, la de las 9 bien, pero el segundo capitulo del día, negro.
Solo a los instaladores se les paso una nota informativa escueta es poco.

"Estimado Colaborador,
Durante el día de hoy y días próximos, una relación de canales de TV Satélite que actualmente emiten en HD van a pasar a emitir en resolucion SD.
Podéis ver la relación de canales más abajo." puse la foto, hace días.

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Of these channels, as stated in the note, La 1 HD and AXN HD were left pending, both with the aforementioned point.
Last week the dot (.) was removed from the pending channels, it seems that they no longer change to SD, time will tell.
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De estos canales, como se dice en la nota, se dejo pendiente La 1 HD y AXN HD, los 2 con el punto comentado.
La semana pasada se les quito el punto (.) a los canales pendientes, parece que ya no cambian a SD, el tiempo dira.

Why does Movistar keep moving around its encrypted programs? just wondering...
Good question, not even Customer Service knows.
I called to complain about the change of removing those HD channels and the response is:
Due to problems with the satellite, there is no space for HD channels and they are removed.

I politely told him that that is a lie, if it is true that they removed those HD channels, and the SD version that the satellite had, now broadcasts a re-scaled copy of the HD channel to minimize complaints thinking that the HD channel looks bad (it has the logo/fly of the HD channel) and many will not realize it.

But like us who are watching the satellites, the day after removing those HD channels, they all became sports/soccer in HD.

So I asked him, if there is no space on the satellite, because the next day they are all working for football/sports, it is clear where the channels that I lost are now, he didn't say anything.

Conclusion, if I am not satisfied, I can only cancel the service. It's time to see what they do, it was said on the internet that the satellite contract is until 2027, now it has been extended until 2030.
It's time to see what they do now with the tp/frequencies emptied from channels these days. Apart from those who changed from SD to HD.
With the change in tp/frequencies, we went from 12 SD channels to 13-14 SD channels in one tp/frequency.
HD channels per TP/frequency went from 6 to 8.
We have to wait for what remains at the end in each TP/frequency, on Monday they already deleted Test type channels with a dot (.).
Since 2016 the BitRate has been lowered, they use a new video solution/compression/codec, I have old recordings that lost 1GB to 2GB of data, the new recorded file has the same duration.
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Buena pregunta, no lo saben ni en Atención al Cliente.
Llame para quejarme del cambio de quitar esos canales HD y la respuesta es:
Por problemas en el satelite, no hay espacio para los canales HD y se quitan.
Le dije educadamente que eso es mentira, si es cierto que quitaron esos canales HD, y la versión SD que tenia el satelite, ahora emite una copia re-escalada del canal HD para minimizar las quejas pensando que mal se ve el canal HD (tiene el logo/mosca del canal HD) y muchos no se darán cuenta.
Pero como nosotros que estamos mirando los satélites, al día siguiente de quitar esos canales HD, todos pasaron a ser de deportes/futbol en HD.
Entonces le pregunte, si no hay espacio en el satelite, pq al día siguiente están todos funcionando para futbol/deporte, esta claro donde están ahora los canales que perdí, no dijo nada.

Conclusión, si no estoy conforme, solo me queda dar de baja del servicio.
Toca ver que hacen, se comento en internet que el contrato del satelite es hasta 2027 ahora esta prorrogado hasta 2030.
Toca ver que hacen ahora con los tp/frecuencias vaciadas de canales estos días.
aparte de los que cambiaron de SD a HD.
Con el cambio de tp/frecuencias, se paso de 12 canales SD a 13-14 canales SD en un tp/frecuencia.
Los canales HD por TP/frecuencia pasaron de 6 a 8.
Toca esperar que queda al final en cada TP/frecuencias, el lunes ya borraron canales tipos Test con punto (.).
Desde 2016 el BitRate a bajado, utilizan una nueva solución/compresión/codec de video, tengo viejas grabaciones que pasaron a perder de 1GB a 2GB los datos, el nuevo fichero grabado de la misma duración.
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This morning they did a good cleaning on the satellite.
One of the tests was left with a point, Test DZ5 (Dazn 5).
Already forgotten in other purges, the provider is Barna, which at the time was the BarçaTV channel and was spared from this new purge.:-doh:-rofl2
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Esta mañana realizaron una buena limpieza en el satelite.
Se dejaron uno de los test con punto, Test DZ5 (Dazn 5).
Ya olvidado en otras purgas, el proveedor es Barna, que seria en su momento el canal BarçaTV y se libro de esta nueva purga.:-doh:-rofl2

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This morning they woke up with enthusiasm (more cleaning), here's the time to ask where is Waly? With the arrows I hope it is clear.
As we can see, the channels returned with the dot (.) mistakenly? how much do they have left? good question.
In theory these channels disappear in HD, continuing in SD, but they use the video/audio of the HD channel so that the change in resolution is less noticeable, the channel logo/fly is HD, they go down from 1080P to 720P.
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Esta mañana se levantaron con ganas (mas limpieza), aquí toca preguntar donde esta Waly? con las flechas espero que quede claro.
Como vemos volvieron los canales con el punto (.) despiste? cuanto les queda? buena pregunta.
En teoría estos canales desaparecen en HD, continuando en SD, pero usan el video/audio del canal HD para que se note menos el cambio de resolución, el logo del canal/mosca es HD, bajan de 1080P a 720P.

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The photo with the dot (.) in these channels.
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La foto con el punto (.) en estos canales.

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PS: As always, errors are admitted, I have no idea about these issues² and less and less every day (good memory), but I'm not the only one, good luck.
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M+ Comedia ( Movistar+, 10729 V ) left Astra 1KR @ 19.2° E

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M+ Deportes 8 ( Movistar+, 10979 V ) on Astra 1L @ 19.2° E

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otra vez movistar? porque migran defrecuencia todo el tiempo?
movistar again? Why do they migrate frequently all the time?

The official answer is that they do not have room on the satellite for all the HD channels, they removed the HD ones from series and movies and now use them for sports/soccer.
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La respuesta oficial es que no tienen sitio en el satelite para todos los canales HD, quitaron los HD de series y cine y ahora los usan para deportes/futbol.



After reading in the Movistar+ forum A subscriber (cebalmi, whom I thank for the first-hand information) sent a burofax to the CEO of Movistar asking for an explanation and for them to resume the HD quality that they have unilaterally withdrawn from us. They called him by phone from the Movistar CEO's team in response to the burofax, this is what he commented.
"They confirmed to me that the decision to remove HD quality from satellite channels is a commercial decision and is IRREVERSIBLE. They showed a lot of interest in the operation of the customer service department and technical support. I told them that no department was informed of the removal of the HD and they did not have any instructions, they showed their frustration at being ignored by management and they showed empathy with the customers, as some of you have explained in this forum. They canceled this subscriber since December 12 when they removed the HD channels."

Using them for sports/soccer.
You are already informed of what is publicly known. They are emptying tp and compressing the SD channels more.
We have to wait (I think) until January 1, 2024 and see what happens with the empty tp/frequencies, their possible use and who uses them.
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PS: I think that's all I know.
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Despues de leer en el foro de Movistar+
Un abonado (cebalmi al que doy las gracias por la información de primera mano) mando un burofax al CEO de Movistar pidiendo una explicación y que reanuden la calidad HD que nos han retirado unilateralmente.
Le llamaron por telefono desde el equipo del CEO de Movistar en respuesta al burofax, esto comento.

" Me confirman que le decision de suprimir la calidad HD de los canales satelite es una decision comercial y es IRREVERSIBLE. Mostraron mucho interes sobre el funcionamiento del departamento de atencion al cliente y el soporte tecnico. Les dije que ningun departamento estaba informado de la supresion del HD y no tenian ninguna instruccion, mostraban su frustracion por ser ninguneados por la direccion y mostraban empatia con los clientes, tal y como alguno de vosotros ha explicado en este foro.
Cursaron la baja de este abonado desde el dia 12 de diciembre que quitaron los canales HD."

Usandolos para deportes/futbol.
Ya estais informado de lo que se sabe publicamente.
Estan vaciando tp y comprimiendo mas los canales SD.
Toca esperar (pienso) al día 1 de enero de 2024 y ver que pasa con los tp/frecuencias vacias, su posible utilización y quien los usa.
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PD: Creo que esta todo lo que se.
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movistar again? Why do they migrate frequently all the time?

The official answer is that they do not have room on the satellite for all the HD channels, they removed the HD ones from series and movies and now use them for sports/soccer.
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La respuesta oficial es que no tienen sitio en el satelite para todos los canales HD, quitaron los HD de series y cine y ahora los usan para deportes/futbol.



After reading in the Movistar+ forum A subscriber (cebalmi, whom I thank for the first-hand information) sent a burofax to the CEO of Movistar asking for an explanation and for them to resume the HD quality that they have unilaterally withdrawn from us. They called him by phone from the Movistar CEO's team in response to the burofax, this is what he commented.
"They confirmed to me that the decision to remove HD quality from satellite channels is a commercial decision and is IRREVERSIBLE. They showed a lot of interest in the operation of the customer service department and technical support. I told them that no department was informed of the removal of the HD and they did not have any instructions, they showed their frustration at being ignored by management and they showed empathy with the customers, as some of you have explained in this forum. They canceled this subscriber since December 12 when they removed the HD channels."

Using them for sports/soccer.
You are already informed of what is publicly known. They are emptying tp and compressing the SD channels more.
We have to wait (I think) until January 1, 2024 and see what happens with the empty tp/frequencies, their possible use and who uses them.
picon-libro.gif


PS: I think that's all I know.
descojonarse-y-ok.gif

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Despues de leer en el foro de Movistar+
Un abonado (cebalmi al que doy las gracias por la información de primera mano) mando un burofax al CEO de Movistar pidiendo una explicación y que reanuden la calidad HD que nos han retirado unilateralmente.
Le llamaron por telefono desde el equipo del CEO de Movistar en respuesta al burofax, esto comento.

" Me confirman que le decision de suprimir la calidad HD de los canales satelite es una decision comercial y es IRREVERSIBLE. Mostraron mucho interes sobre el funcionamiento del departamento de atencion al cliente y el soporte tecnico. Les dije que ningun departamento estaba informado de la supresion del HD y no tenian ninguna instruccion, mostraban su frustracion por ser ninguneados por la direccion y mostraban empatia con los clientes, tal y como alguno de vosotros ha explicado en este foro.
Cursaron la baja de este abonado desde el dia 12 de diciembre que quitaron los canales HD."

Usandolos para deportes/futbol.
Ya estais informado de lo que se sabe publicamente.
Estan vaciando tp y comprimiendo mas los canales SD.
Toca esperar (pienso) al día 1 de enero de 2024 y ver que pasa con los tp/frecuencias vacias, su posible utilización y quien los usa.
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PD: Creo que esta todo lo que se.
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Thank you!! I just wondered why an encrypted bouquet kept jumping around,when people pay & use dedicated receivers,this must be quite messy.
Maybe Movistar will go bankrupt & you ll get Vodafone or another instead.
 

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Thank you!! I just wondered why an encrypted bouquet kept jumping around,when people pay & use dedicated receivers,this must be quite messy.
Maybe Movistar will go bankrupt & you ll get Vodafone or another instead.
The receivers, if they are in automatic channel tuning configuration, are not aware of these changes.
Only we see them or if you have a custom channel order, in my case, like in 1993, I didn't like the new ways of placing the channels and I go to my liking.
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Los receptores, si estan en configuracion automatica de la sintonia de canales, no se enteran de estos cambios.
Solo los vemos nosotros o si tienes un orden de canales personalizado, en mi caso, como en 1993, no me gustaron las nuevas formas de colocar los canales y voy a mi gusto.


It won't go bankrupt, Digi has been around for a long time with all the problems in the world to keep the old numbers.
In the town there is no choice but Telefonica and satellite, rural areas are of no interest to anyone, I am 50km from Madrid in a town in the Sierra Norte.

Telefonica offers telephone + internet service (copper pair and FO), apart from IPTV.
In the United Kingdom it has 50% of the company O2.

A few years ago he bought the competition of these "Digital plus" channels (which broadcast by satellite), I think he is dismantling the company from within and transferring the maximum number of clients to his IPTV company, the strange thing is that he has a satellite contract until 2027 and according to a SES-Astra, extensive contract until 2030, logically according to the real subscribers to the service after purging/cleaning the pirate connections that the Chinese servers had in the last 3 years, in Astra at 19'2ºE tp/frequencies are becoming free utilities and they don't rent them, now you are cleaning, from what I have read, there is no going back, playing all the HD channels removed from series and movies for sports/football, you have to be patient and see what steps they take.
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No quebrara, hace tiempo en Digi con todas las pegas del mundo para conservas los viejos numeros.
En el pueblo no queda mas remedio que Telefonica y el satelite, las zonas rurales no interesan a nadie, estoy a 50Km de Madrid en un pueblo de la Sierra Norte.

Telefonica ofrece servicio de telefonia + internet (par de cobre y FO), aparte de IPTV.
Por Reino Unido tiene 50% de la empresa O2 .

Hace unos años compro la competencia de estos canales "Digital plus" (que emite por satelite), pienso que esta desmantelando la empresa desde dentro y pasando el maximo numero de clientes a su empresa IPTV, lo raro es que tiene contrato del satelite hasta 2027 y segun un SES-Astra, amplio contrato hasta 2030, logicamente segun los abonados al servicio reales despues de purgar/limpar las conexiones piratas que tenian estos 3 ultimos años de los servidores chinos, en Astra a 19'2ºE van quedando tp/frecuencias libre utilies y no las alquilan, ahora estas limpieza, por lo leido, no hay marcha atras, pasando todos los canales HD quitados de series y cine para deportes/futbol, toca tener paciencia y ver que pasos van dando.
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The receivers, if they are in automatic channel tuning configuration, are not aware of these changes.
Only we see them or if you have a custom channel order, in my case, like in 1993, I didn't like the new ways of placing the channels and I go to my liking.
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Los receptores, si estan en configuracion automatica de la sintonia de canales, no se enteran de estos cambios.
Solo los vemos nosotros o si tienes un orden de canales personalizado, en mi caso, como en 1993, no me gustaron las nuevas formas de colocar los canales y voy a mi gusto.


It won't go bankrupt, Digi has been around for a long time with all the problems in the world to keep the old numbers.
In the town there is no choice but Telefonica and satellite, rural areas are of no interest to anyone, I am 50km from Madrid in a town in the Sierra Norte.

Telefonica offers telephone + internet service (copper pair and FO), apart from IPTV.
In the United Kingdom it has 50% of the company O2.

A few years ago he bought the competition of these "Digital plus" channels (which broadcast by satellite), I think he is dismantling the company from within and transferring the maximum number of clients to his IPTV company, the strange thing is that he has a satellite contract until 2027 and according to a SES-Astra, extensive contract until 2030, logically according to the real subscribers to the service after purging/cleaning the pirate connections that the Chinese servers had in the last 3 years, in Astra at 19'2ºE tp/frequencies are becoming free utilities and they don't rent them, now you are cleaning, from what I have read, there is no going back, playing all the HD channels removed from series and movies for sports/football, you have to be patient and see what steps they take.
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No quebrara, hace tiempo en Digi con todas las pegas del mundo para conservas los viejos numeros.
En el pueblo no queda mas remedio que Telefonica y el satelite, las zonas rurales no interesan a nadie, estoy a 50Km de Madrid en un pueblo de la Sierra Norte.

Telefonica ofrece servicio de telefonia + internet (par de cobre y FO), aparte de IPTV.
Por Reino Unido tiene 50% de la empresa O2 .

Hace unos años compro la competencia de estos canales "Digital plus" (que emite por satelite), pienso que esta desmantelando la empresa desde dentro y pasando el maximo numero de clientes a su empresa IPTV, lo raro es que tiene contrato del satelite hasta 2027 y segun un SES-Astra, amplio contrato hasta 2030, logicamente segun los abonados al servicio reales despues de purgar/limpar las conexiones piratas que tenian estos 3 ultimos años de los servidores chinos, en Astra a 19'2ºE van quedando tp/frecuencias libre utilies y no las alquilan, ahora estas limpieza, por lo leido, no hay marcha atras, pasando todos los canales HD quitados de series y cine para deportes/futbol, toca tener paciencia y ver que pasos van dando.
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so it s telefonica... why is it called movistar?Telefonica is the old Fuencarral company,right?Their building is my best landmark in Madrid... & near my hotel!!
 

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so it s telefonica... why is it called movistar?Telefonica is the old Fuencarral company,right?Their building is my best landmark in Madrid... & near my hotel!!
Telefonica is a huge compay, swallowing up O2 (and I think Virgin mobile services) in the past few months.
 

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Telefonica is a huge compay, swallowing up O2 (and I think Virgin mobile services) in the past few months.
is there a way to get the basic dtt spanish channels (la dos,antena tres... ) fta outside spain?
 

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is there a way to get the basic dtt spanish channels (la dos,antena tres... ) fta outside spain?
By satellite Fta? nothing.
Only on Hispasat at 30ºWest, using the links for the terrestrial repeaters, they go with Biss encryption if I don't get confused.
They sell ready-made receivers or prepare one Enigma2, I'm green on this, everything is online.

Telefonica became Movistar, the usual company with its lines and FO/IPTV.
I bought Digital+ and changed the name to the satellite company ==> Movistar+, this is the one that is being "dismantled" little by little.
Now you have Movistar (terrestrial) and Movistar+ (satellite), apart from the rest of the companies.
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¿Hay alguna manera de conseguir los canales básicos de TDT en español (la dos, antena tres...) FTA fuera de España?
Por satelite Fta? nada.
Solo por el Hispasat a 30ºOeste, usando los enlaces para los repetidores terrestres, van con encript Biss si no me lio.
Venden receptores ya preparado o preparar uno Enigma2, en esto estoy verde, todo esta por internet.

Telefonica, paso a ser Movistar, la empresa de siempre con sus lineas y FO/IPTV.
Compro Digital+ y cambio el nombre a la empresa de satelite ==> Movistar+, esta es la que se esta "desmantelando" poco a poco.
Ahora tienes Movistar (terrestre) y Movistar+ (satelite), aparte del resto de companias.
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