Advice Needed Setting up 16E Eutelsat with 1 Metre dish in UK

[moonbase]

Yes i have the plate attached to my dish aswell as motor like the one in the pic attached, the only thing i dont have is the superjack arm thing thats in that pic as appentley its not needed, and im currently at work so cant get pic of it, i wish the weather would get better asap

The actuator arm in the picture of the Moteck H180 setup was to provide inclined orbit tracking, it was a LINAK optical actuator with fine resolution.
You are correct, you do not need this, you should have the elevation bolt instead at that location on the setup.

As indicated above by @Mickha you need some type of meter or signal measuring device at the dish during setup.
In the absence of a standalone meter you can use a small TV connected to a satellite receiver at the dish and read the signal level, preferably in dB from the receiver.
Alternatively, you could use a receiver indoors that has streaming capability and stream the signal level from it to a mobile phone that you have at the dish.

Whatever method you use, you need some type of signal level measurement at the dish while you adjust it.

Two things I would consider as mandatory:
1. Digital inclinometer.
2. A means of signal measurement at the dish.

 

[Manikm909]

Buy a cheap digital inclinometer, one of them will allow you to adjust your declination angle in tenths of a degree.

With respect to your comments about the forum loading very slowly, I have no problems at all using a desktop or a laptop PC, pages load almost instantly.
What device are you using to acess this forum web pages and are you using a hard wired connection or a wifi connection?
Forum pages loading slow is an issue on your side, it is not from the forum hosting server side.

yeah ive never had slow issues on here, on my pc or mobile phone

 

[danaddison]

thats weird as i am still getting slow loading speeds on here, ok so ill move the bracket down to 7.0 degrees (if its possible to do) (some how), and will point it to 0.8w and try to get a signal (when it stops raining)

 

[Mickha]

When you align it to 1 West ensure everything is set to 0, LNB, and Motor, and that the dish is not skewed.
It would help if you just posted your Longitude, to check how far your True South is off 1 West.

 

[danaddison]

i believe this is what my angle should look like (see pic) > https://purplesat.com/web_images/36v_hh_motor.jpg , i have emailed the owner of the website purplesat.com to ask for assistance aswell, hopefully they can also help me with my issues, the long metal bolt (see pic here) > is this how mine should be set? if yes whats this bolt for inclination or what? im confused about that aswell,

please see the manual here> https://www.pulsat.com/files/moteck_h180_install.pdf its confusing me, if anyone can decipher it for me step by step in plain english that be great thanks

so i read the manual as this:

Set Elevation angle (The Scale on the motor bracket is for easy setting) (Long scew A) to 22°
Declination Angle: set it by screw B and the scale on the upper mounting plate (Gold Plate at top)

is this all i need to do??

 

[Captain Jack]

i have emailed the owner of the website purplesat.com to ask for assistance aswell, hopefully they can also help me with my issues

I am sure they'd be more than happy to. For a fee.

The patience my fellow forums members are demonstrating in this thread is astounding.

 

[moonbase]

... , i have emailed the owner of the website purplesat.com to ask for assistance aswell, hopefully they can also help me with my issues, ...

It might be simpler if you ask the Purplesat installer if they will take you on as a fee paying client to resolve your issues, if they are prepared to travel to your location ?
If you pay them travelling time and expenses plus time on site to setup the motorised dish they will get you sorted out.

 

[Manikm909]

your lat is 52.6 - so according to the manual - u need to set it to

elevation should be set to 38 and declination set to 7.5

 

[scopus]

Some pictures here of my 90cm CM on Thor mounted on a similar HtoH the 1224. I also have the inclination jack instead of a threaded rod. This is the satellite to find FIRST..I downloaded a simple inclinomoter on my Samsung smartphone..Perhaps you can understand these rather than words? but as others are saying you may be best paying someone to set it up for a fee, Use SkyNews to set up if you have no meter.

 

[a33]

This is a really easy system to setup, all that is involved are three angles, all of which can be adjusted to within a tenth of a degree using a digital inclinometer.

1. Pole angle, 90 degree vertical in the East/West plane.
2. Elevation angle, adjusted in two stages, before and after declination angle.
3. Declination angle, set after initial elevation angle is set and before 2nd adjustment to elevation angle.

To me it looks like also the adapter plate has to be set to match the offset angle of the dish.
Or am I mistaken here?

Greetz,
A33

 

[Manikm909]

you dont like birds (feathered type) do you @scopus

 

[scopus]

you dont like birds (feathered type) do you @scopus

No, not when next door has around 20 bird feeders dotted all over her garden, they used to use the dishes as perches and crap all down them after stuffing themselves...

 

[danaddison]

Lol weather still crap here in norfolk so cant change or adjust anything on my dish today but when the weather is better ill give it ago

 

[Mickha]

i believe this is what my angle should look like i have emailed the owner of the website purplesat.com to ask for assistance aswell, hopefully they can also help me with my issues, the long metal bolt (see pic here) > is this how mine should be set? if yes whats this bolt for inclination or what? im confused about that aswell,
f its confusing me, if anyone can decipher it for me step by step in plain english that be great thanks

so i read the manual as this:

Set Elevation angle (The Scale on the motor bracket is for easy setting) (Long scew A) to 22°
Declination Angle: set it by screw B and the scale on the upper mounting plate (Gold Plate at top)

is this all i need to do??

Please stop posting links, to another site.

I can only assume that you are very new to a motorized satellite dish, or you're just not answering the posts correctly.

One of the most basic things, about setting up a motorized dish, with a 36V motor, is to point it at the satellite nearest your longitude position.

This is because as the motor moves the dish, it skews it, (rotates it), to automatically adjust the skew of the LNB, for different satellite positions, which is why your Longitude position is critical, and you set the LNB/Motor/Dish to 0, there are scales, on the motor, and LNB, and the dish you just ensure it is straight.

With USALS it's easier, as you enter your Latitude, and Longitude, into your receiver, and use the receiver to send your motor to your desired satellite, for alignment, it's far more difficult with a 36V motor, which is better for larger dishes.

Another problem, with 36V motors, is that you have to move it, using your receivers menu options, to locate each satellite, and store them, with individual positions, e.g. 1W to position 1, 19.2E to position 19, these can be any numbers you wish, but only once.

If you don't get the basics correct you will never get your dish working properly.

 

[moonbase]

Please stop posting links, to another site.
I can only assume that you are very new to a motorized satellite dish, or you're just not answering the posts correctly.

He has been told previously about not posting links to other sites.
To me, it suggests he is not reading the replies slowly and absorbing the content, including some helpful advice.

We have been here before, a couple of times...

Setting up my Moteck H180 GTP-1800AM 36V HH motor.

so i just got this motor and wondering which way the motor cables connect to the motor please? see attached picture for cable (from satellite superstore) im getting/using for motor if u can tell me what cable connects to which input on the motor (M1, M2, Sensor), unless it doesnt matter, that...

www.satellites.co.uk

And this link has also been provided to the O/P previously

Jaeger 1224 Motor Settings

what would be the correct jaeger motor angle fr 52.6° N, 1.1° W setup on thor?, just noticed mine doesnt peak after hotbird?

www.satellites.co.uk

 

[danaddison]

Please stop posting links, to another site.

I can only assume that you are very new to a motorized satellite dish, or you're just not answering the posts correctly.

One of the most basic things, about setting up a motorized dish, with a 36V motor, is to point it at the satellite nearest your longitude position.

This is because as the motor moves the dish, it skews it, (rotates it), to automatically adjust the skew of the LNB, for different satellite positions, which is why your Longitude position is critical, and you set the LNB/Motor/Dish to 0, there are scales, on the motor, and LNB, and the dish you just ensure it is straight.

With USALS it's easier, as you enter your Latitude, and Longitude, into your receiver, and use the receiver to send your motor to your desired satellite, for alignment, it's far more difficult with a 36V motor, which is better for larger dishes.

Another problem, with 36V motors, is that you have to move it, using your receivers menu options, to locate each satellite, and store them, with individual positions, e.g. 1W to position 1, 19.2E to position 19, these can be any numbers you wish, but only once.

If you don't get the basics correct you will never get your dish working properly.

i am not 100% new at this only with this new motor and dish, i have another dish attached to another motor, but that dish is now blocked by a new shed that i had put up (new dish is further away from that shed, i have done all my settings on my sf8008, the only thing i need to sort out is the motor and dish to align correctly

ps im not seeing all relys here only a few!! be nice to me not my fault this websites slow

 

[Lazarus]

This site is not slow. If you find that it is ( and you appear to be in a minority of one), then you will need to seek out another explanation.

 

[scopus]

i am not 100% new at this only with this new motor and dish, i have another dish attached to another motor, but that dish is now blocked by a new shed that i had put up (new dish is further away from that shed, i have done all my settings on my sf8008, the only thing i need to sort out is the motor and dish to align correctly

ps im not seeing all relys here only a few!! be nice to me not my fault this websites slow

The principle is the same for USALS, Diseqc, 36V, you have to find due South first. That's why we use Thor in England 1West of South so only 1 degree away from the Greenwich meridian, (0 degrees) if you were in the West of Ireland it would probably be 5W as that is due South to them. Unless you do this first, the dish will never track the arc properly in either direction...
The website is fine for me, fast and I can see all the replies..What are you using, Windows 98 or something?

 

[danaddison]

This site is not slow. If you find that it is ( and you appear to be in a minority of one), then you will need to seek out another explanation.

well i have Gigabit Internet yea im using Microsoft Edge on windows pc this website takes about 5-10 mins to load each and everypage on this website, my internet is not the issue here, because i also use this website on my phone via 4g using chrome, same issues, and it keeps coming up with "oops we ran into problems" everytime i try to reply

 

[danaddison]

No Windows 10, Edge, 1GBPS Speeds!!