viaccess 2.3 2.4 2.5

[goldfish2]

Can someone explain to m e the differences between these verions? and also why can i can some channels like jetix on canal sat but not some others who use exactly the same encryption?

 

[bremze]

These are the versions of viaccess.
Some French channels use modified versions of 2.3 - tpscrypt (hacked) and thalescrypt (not hacked). That's why some of 2.3 channels you can have but some you can not.
2.4 is hacked but not widely used. 2.5 is not hacked.

Something like that.

 

[goldfish2]

These are the versions of viaccess.
Some French channels use modified versions of 2.3 - tpscrypt (hacked) and thalescrypt (not hacked). That's why some of 2.3 channels you can have but some you can not.
2.4 is hacked but not widely used. 2.5 is not hacked.

Something like that.

thanks very much for that, but why a year ago i was getting multivision them i stopped getting them and now i am getting them again and i havent dome anything to my receiver?

 

[Monde]

Hi,

If you want us to help you, you have to tell us more about your equipment (which receiver, emulator, CA etc.).

Cheers,
V.

 

[goldfish2]

Hi,

If you want us to help you, you have to tell us more about your equipment (which receiver, emulator, CA etc.).

Cheers,
V.

Ok when i press info on the receiver this is what is gives me:

product: srt3680
SW version: s02b-2.99R-B39.01 nov 2004
HW version STS-MB.02A SZLO

no cam or card i jsut enter the codes manually
I had multivison a year ago, lost it , then i have got it again.

 

[Burnham Beech]

Multivision like most of TPS has been available in TPScrypt and via2 for some months.

But for the past week Multivision has dropped TPScrypt and gone back to plain via1, that might be why you can get it now but not before.

The rest of TPS is still in TPScrypt+via2 (+ a load of other unhacked IDs).

 

[goldfish2]

Multivision like most of TPS has been available in TPScrypt and via2 for some months.

But for the past week Multivision has dropped TPScrypt and gone back to plain via1, that might be why you can get it now but not before.

The rest of TPS is still in TPScrypt+via2 (+ a load of other unhacked IDs).

Thanks for that, so tahts why , so I suppose it wont last long.
BUt someone else here said that in fact V2 is sometimes thalescrypt and thats why i only get some channels in tpscrypt and V2. Is that correct?

 

[Burnham Beech]

thalescrypt has nothing to do with TPS and I don't think it is hacked.

The algo for plain via2 (no idea whether that's 2.4 or 2.5) has been known for some time so all you need is the 16 byte key.

Most of these via2 keys are unknown but for some reason the via2 TPS key got out earlier this year and TPS have not attempted to change it.

Incidentally the rest of TPS has dropped TPScrypt and gone back to plain via1 today. That could mean big changes are about to happen.

 

[goldfish2]

thalescrypt has nothing to do with TPS and I don't think it is hacked.

The algo for plain via2 (no idea whether that's 2.4 or 2.5) has been known for some time so all you need is the 16 byte key.

Most of these via2 keys are unknown but for some reason the via2 TPS key got out earlier this year and TPS have not attempted to change it.

Incidentally the rest of TPS has dropped TPScrypt and gone back to plain via1 today. That could mean big changes are about to happen.

wel i am a bit confused now, 2 people on this forum said that in fact V2/3/5 were in fact thalescrypt.
i can get on hotbird all the channels on 10834v which are tpsscrypt and v2 then why cant i get 10873v which are also tpscrypt and V2?

 

[gameboy]

why cant i get 10873v which are also tpscrypt and V2?

May be using a differnent k*y that isn't available.

Just a thought.

 

[goldfish2]

May be using a differnent k*y that isn't available.

Just a thought.

all my keys are correct tahts why i dont understanf what is going on, but if you read above someone says that V3 is a modified form of thalescrypt and thats why i dont get all the channels.
Also with my receiver i can enter viaccess/niagravision/irdeto/seca keys but i dont get niagravison or irdeto channels. so is it because of the firmware?

 

[Burnham Beech]

Multi questions are hard to cover in one thread so I will stick to the TPS questions.

All TPS channels have multiple IDs - a mixture of via1, via2 & TPScrypt - and only ID 015000 on via2 and ID 007c00 on via1 or TPScrypt can be cleared. Some receivers can't handle these multiple IDs and only check one ID - if the ID they check is not 015000 or 007c00 then the channel won't be cleared.

You can't test anything at the moment as TPScrypt has been turned off as I said earlier. Try again in a day or two and say which channel on those two transponders is an example of what works and what doesn't. Quoting a transponder is not exact enough as each channel can transmit a separate list of IDs.

 

[BGonaSTICK]

Yep, BB is spot-on as always.

Nice explanation m8.

My understanding is that tpscrypt is a modded version of Via1, and nothing to do with 'Via2' variants, although it may have been a half-cocked prototype.

They usually turn it of, as you say, just before a change... but I think I'm right in saying that it has never coincided with a change to the Via2 encryption.

We know that it's all going to change b4 too long though.

STICK

 

[goldfish2]

Multi questions are hard to cover in one thread so I will stick to the TPS questions.

All TPS channels have multiple IDs - a mixture of via1, via2 & TPScrypt - and only ID 015000 on via2 and ID 007c00 on via1 or TPScrypt can be cleared. Some receivers can't handle these multiple IDs and only check one ID - if the ID they check is not 015000 or 007c00 then the channel won't be cleared.

You can't test anything at the moment as TPScrypt has been turned off as I said earlier. Try again in a day or two and say which channel on those two transponders is an example of what works and what doesn't. Quoting a transponder is not exact enough as each channel can transmit a separate list of IDs.

yes i was gettting everything yesterday like you said, today its back to square one: the only channels i get in TPS : 10911v (tf1/tfou/teletoon+1) and 10834 v (France 2/france 3....) 10853v spice platinum, and 11681 h (nt1/trl9/action....)

 

[Burnham Beech]

As you say, TPS has gone back to TPScrypt instead of plain via1 on most channels (including multivision this time).

Your findings are very strange, could you check them. The simple explanation is that some channels stay in plain via1 (like TF1/TFOU/RTL9) all the time and that's why you get them.

But you say you get Fr1/Fr2 on 10834v. These are in TPScrypt today (as they normally are) - if you really can get these two channels we will have to come up with a more complicated explanation.

 

[moordown66]

As you say, TPS has gone back to TPScrypt instead of plain via1 on most channels (including multivision this time).

Your findings are very strange, could you check them. The simple explanation is that some channels stay in plain via1 (like TF1/TFOU/RTL9) all the time and that's why you get them.

But you say you get Fr1/Fr2 on 10834v. These are in TPScrypt today (as they normally are) - if you really can get these two channels we will have to come up with a more complicated explanation.

Is there any particular reason why TF1, M6 and a few others stay in via 1, and don't adopt TPSCrypt? That's always puzzled me.....almost as if it's a kind of 'FTV' invite!!!

 

[goldfish2]

Is there any particular reason why TF1, M6 and a few others stay in via 1, and don't adopt TPSCrypt? That's always puzzled me.....almost as if it's a kind of 'FTV' invite!!!

it wasnt working this morning but it seems that once again all channels are back to V1.
i dont know if TF1 is only v1 but accordrin to the website king of sa*** these channels are in tpscrypt and viacess. so if anyone outhere can explain why i can get some channels and not the rest please let me know.

 

[Burnham Beech]

As you say shortly after I posted they went back to via1 only and dropped TPScrypt on all channels.

You clearly can only get via1 and not TPScrypt with your set up.

Whatever it says elsewhere, TF1 was in via1 only earlier (NOT, repeat, NOT TPScrypt) today and that's why you cleared it. You still have the mystery of Fr2/Fr3 to clear up when TPScrypt returns.

 

[goldfish2]

I also have spice platinum even before it went on V1, and on astra i get all the channels on canal sat on 12402V (planete choc/jetix....) and also france 2 on 12012 which is media and tpscrypt.
what does it mean , you say tf1 is on v1 and has always been on v1 so why does it say on the channelds listing it is on tpscrypt and v2? very confusing.

 

[Burnham Beech]

I've tried my best. Basically in this game you can believe whoever you want to.

If you believe that the various listings you refer to are 100% correct, then that's OK with me. It's time for someone else to take this thread further.