I decided in the end not to buy the one that was on eBay. It sold for £311 which I think was too much money. It only had 1 DVB-S2 FBC card installed and a 320gb hdd. It also had a crack in the front plastic at the side. It would be better to buy a duo 4k with 2 fbc cards and 5tb hdd new for just a bit more money. If an Ultimo 4k was listed for £200 or so I would buy one in a heartbeat.