What Is The Best 240cm Dish On The Market?

[Frenzy10]

What reason did they give ?

I spoke to my neighbour to see if they had any objections about the dish before i sent off the planning permission. They seemed fine about it and had no qualms. Instead they contacted the council and and opposed the idea according to another neighbor of mine. The council then said that the dish would have '' a severe visual impact to the neighbors land and surrounding area''.

 

[lanab]

Someone who realized that the UK is only 80823 sq mi in area with a population in excess of 60 million
whereas in Sweden it is over twice that with 173860 sq mi in area and only approx 10 million population

Res ipsa loquitur

What do you know about how dense the population lives in Sweden?

Most people here live in cities these days and last time i checked the properties are not larger than a normal house in London.

 

[Topper]

What do you know about how dense the population lives in Sweden?

Most people here live in cities these days and last time i checked the properties are not larger than a normal house in London.

Well I know nothing as I have never been to Sweden nor am I an expert in population densities although why you are getting so aggressive about my factual information I have no idea? I am merely quoting facts that are available on-line for all to read and hypothesizing that greater limitations have to be in place in the UK because of the increased population density. If as you say there is no difference between Sweden and the UK with the density and type of housing available in both locations then I can only conclude that the Swedish authorities are less sensitive to their citizen's objections to ugly eyesores. What I do have is sufficient common sense to understand that there has to be more than that one reason for the planning regulations in Sweden being so lax and if that makes Sweden a better place than the UK then that is your good fortune. The one thing I am absolutely certain of is that everyone on this forum is entitled to their opinion even me

 

[RimaNTSS]

If I could afford installation of 2,4m, 3m or even 5m antenna I would do it without asking anybody. I do not think we have such a restriction. Very often I see quiet big antennas on balconies and roofs of apartment houses. There are probably only problem if house is in historical old town.
P.S. Long time ago Riga was the biggest city of Sweden! And now we have about 1/2 of the population of the country living in capital.

 

[rolfw]

It's not only the UK who have dish size restrictions in the EU, pretty sure that you can't simply slap up any sized dish in France and Germany also.

We have a fairly rigid planning structure because of our population to land ratio, but we are far less controlling than Sweden in other ways, I for instance, can go out at almost any time day or night and buy a bottle of wine from a variety of places for a dinner party at competitive prices, not the same in Sweden I believe, infact you can only buy at very restricted government controlled outlets and pretty inflated prices.

Regarding the human rights aspect, it only applies if you wish to receive programmes from your home nation and even that would be over-ridden if TV reception from your home nation required a dish outside normal planning constraints.

@ Frenzy10, there aren't many local authorities who will readily allow installation of a 2.4m dish.

 

[timo_w2s]

In Finland I think part of the reason why large dishes are commonplace is from the old days when you needed at least 1.8m to get decent reception from Astra 1A/1B/1C and Eutelsat IIF1, and it was considered pretty normal just like a 60cm dish was considered pretty standard in the UK. Nowadays you can view Astra 1 on a 45cm dish in the south (although 80cm is recommended) but there are still a lot of old large 1.5m and 1.8m dish still in use today, especially in the Helsinki suburbs. I suspect it was a similar situation in Sweden, certainly in the northern parts.

 

[sonnetpete]

...It's not only the UK who have dish size restrictions in the EU, pretty sure that you can't simply slap up any sized dish in France and Germany also...

Oooops....

 

[lanab]

In Finland I think part of the reason why large dishes are commonplace is from the old days when you needed at least 1.8m to get decent reception from Astra 1A/1B/1C and Eutelsat IIF1, and it was considered pretty normal just like a 60cm dish was considered pretty standard in the UK. Nowadays you can view Astra 1 on a 45cm dish in the south (although 80cm is recommended) but there are still a lot of old large 1.5m and 1.8m dish still in use today, especially in the Helsinki suburbs. I suspect it was a similar situation in Sweden, certainly in the northern parts.

Yes because back then we only had two state government channels here and Soviet Union was still our neighbors so we had the same quality as USSR broadcasted, lots of socialistic propaganda, when satellite dish came onto the market several politicians tried to forbid us to own a dish, it was real bad back then.

Anyway thankfully it never went through and dishes were allowed, everyone and i mean everyone had a 1.5/1.8m dish motorized on their houses, it was crazy back then, it all started in 1985 and exploded all the way thru 1991 or so..i would say the first Astra 1A satellite killed large dishes here as you could get the Sky UK package and Nordic channels on a 90cm dish.

These days you rarely see large dishes on houses, you don't even see small dishes anymore as IPTV, DVB-C and DVB-T is the choice today for most.

I have attached the first sat dish review in one of the leading magazines here from 1985, these were the first real dishes nornal people could afford, pretty nostalgic reading it, just look at the 1.8m dish with Cassegrain, that was the best seller back here and it performed great.

 

[Lazarus]

Is this where I claim my £5 ?

 

[timo_w2s]

I have attached the first sat dish review in one of the leading magazines here from 1985, these were the first real dishes nornal people could afford, pretty nostalgic reading it, just look at the 1.8m dish with Cassegrain, that was the best seller back here and it performed great.

Nice! I had that Handic receiver (with twiddly knobs to tune in video and audio - no presets) and dish with a single polarity LNB, exactly like in the photo - bought the kit secondhand for about £25 in 1991. The receiver was quite sensitive when hooked up to a decent LNB but the dish mount was horrible and would wobble about in the wind.

 

[lanab]

Nice! I had that Handic receiver (with twiddly knobs to tune in video and audio - no presets) and dish with a single polarity LNB, exactly like in the photo - bought the kit secondhand for about £25 in 1991. The receiver was quite sensitive when hooked up to a decent LNB but the dish mount was horrible and would wobble about in the wind.

Cool, the mount was truly horrible. Where did you buy the Handic dish from, Finland? Handic was a Swedish company and they made the dishes here, it was the cheapest of the bunch, they also offered extension panels so you get it to 2 meters, however the feed only illuminated 1.8m.

 

[timo_w2s]

Cool, the mount was truly horrible. Where did you buy the Handic dish from, Finland? Handic was a Swedish company and they made the dishes here, it was the cheapest of the bunch, they also offered extension panels so you get it to 2 meters, however the feed only illuminated 1.8m.

Actually I bought it in the UK from a friend's dad who was looking to get rid of it. A few months later we moved to Finland so it was packed in the house move. We used the dish (with a new LNB and Pace receiver) for Sky for about a year before getting a proper 1.8m dish installed (which we still use today and used to get Astra 2D until recently), then the Handic dish was moved to 27.5W for BBC World Service TV and BFBS radio while the Handic receiver picked up TV5 Nordic/Kanal Fem from Tele-X via an old BSB dish (it was basically left on that channel and piped around the house via the UHF modulator). Later on the receiver started to overheat so I cut bigger air holes in the back of the case and added an extra big heatsink which seemed to cure the problems until it was no longer needed and digital TV came along. I sold the dish in Finland quite a while ago and the receiver has been thrown away during a house tidy up a few years ago.

 

[norm360]

Surely if you are siting the dish in your back garden with limited views from the neighbours you can put however many/sized dishes you want.

Obviously asking to put a 2.4M dish in front garden would be silly.