Any lnb test reviews lately?

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The new Premium Inverto LNB arrived today. Firstly, extreme heavy rain today and roads flooded. So a nice day for testig! Compared to my best LNB, the ALPS it gives 10% raise in quality on the difficult BBC signal. Others have an increase from 50 to 80% in quality. Not bad in heavy rain!!! This is so far the best LNB I have. It looks like my bad weather problem is no longer a problem on BBC. I can recommend this product, price is not bad either. I ordered it from a german seller. The front of the LNB is slightly larger than normal LNBs. If you dont want to install a bigger dish this migh do the trick for you.
 

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The PLL lnb was a good one. I have retired the other ones I have. I bought a used dish and got some "new" LNBs along with it. I noticed a SHARP, it could be a winner to looking at the datasheet. Made in Japan!
1

Premium inverto sln-410 pllT
Superb!+

2

Sharp bs1k2el200a PLL twin
Superb!

3

Alps bsne8-601a
Excellent

4

Inverto black ultra
Good+

5

Megasat diavolo
Good

-----not tested

Canal digital with legacy twin
Microelectronics ak541-xt2-le with legacy
Maximum digital technology SF-10
Goobay 67270 uni twin lnb
Unknown, label off

Any good ones of the last five?
I assume the canal digital may be of good quality.

I am not going to buy more for now, but a test of the sharp lnb would be interesting as this is PLL.

What is your guess?
 

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Have never tried any of those LNBs so can't comment. Just because the Sharp is PLL doesn't mean it's going to be better than all the non-PLL LNBs :)

Please can you post a side by side photo of the new Inverto vs Black Ultra, to compare the length of the necks. :)
 

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Inverto PLL to the left
 

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Thanks, the new Inverto looks to have a decent length neck, will have to try one :cool:
 

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Take note the diametre of the funnel is slightly larger, say 5mm. But I guess you may find exact measurements in the data sheet. I saw it locally for only £15, but they were sold out. I could not wait for delivery, so I ordered from Germany via e-bay. Price is next to nothing for an upgrade
 

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The new Premium inverto LNB is the new black ultra in my view i look forward to other members results. Its maybe just the LTE filter that makes the difference.
 

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Golden media 202+ just arrived and quickly fitted (can't miss Countdown!). Getting high band channels, Sky news,Sky Arts, Pick, that were missing while using IBU to the Zgemma H9S. TM nano m3 saw them though.
 

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Slightly off topic but...I intend to take my 1.2M dish off the motor for the winter. However, I still have the very first small dish I motorised when I began the hobby and I'd like to put that on the motor instead. It may be an interesting comparison to try the IBU and this Premium Inverto on the small dish. All depends on weather and time issues..
 

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A quick test tonight Badr-4 @ 26°east with OP Gibertini 100 XP With TM5502HD.

90% of signal quality over 70% all Lnb's all transponders,

Except 12073 H 27500 BBC World News HD


Inverto Black Ultra = 72% SQ
Inverto PLL ========= No Signal
Golden Media GM201+== No Signal

Weather permitting I will test all 3 over the satellite arc soon,

Looks like the Inverto Black Ultra has no competition atm :)
 

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A quick test tonight Badr-4 @ 26°east with OP Gibertini 100 XP With TM5502HD.

90% of signal quality over 70% all Lnb's all transponders,

Except 12073 H 27500 BBC World News HD


Inverto Black Ultra = 72% SQ
Inverto PLL ========= No Signal
Golden Media GM201+== No Signal

Weather permitting I will test all 3 over the satellite arc soon,

Looks like the Inverto Black Ultra has no competition atm :)
Going by my experience this week one cannot guarantee that the IBU will give better results than a GM202+ with a particular receiver on a particular channel.
We previously blamed my lack of Sky news etc. on the Zgemma H9S being "deaf" on the high band. How can we explain changing to the GM202+ letting me see Sky news? Was the IBU too strong at some frequency that "deafened" the Zgemma tuner? Is the GM202+ more responsive at 12070H than the IBU? Is there a spectrum analyzer for enigma2?
 

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LNB test 24th Oct 2020

%= Signal Quality
Strongest & Weakest Transponders
OP Gibertini 100 XP Octagon SX88 Optima 50°east to 34.5°west=======Re check during rain==
==================Inverto Black Ultra==Golden Media 201+==Inverto PLL=Inverto Black Ultra
50°E 11196 V 2222 Turksat Tanitim.92%========98%========= ================
46°E 11135 H 27500 CBC Sport HD...92%========84%=========
46°E 11025 V 12700 ARB 24 HD......77%========64%=========
45°E 11515 V 30000 NKTV Evrokom...100%=======100%
42°E 11054 V 30000 TRT World HD...100%=======100%
42°E 11045 H 4800 Show Turk.......69%========66%
39°E 10730 H 30000 Muvi 2.........100%=======100%
39°E 12224 H 13380 ERT Sport......87%========82%
36°E 11345 H 30000 BNT 4..........95%========92%
36°E 11500 V 5786 CNC-HD..........57%========52%
33.1°E 12645 H 13910 BNT 3........77%========69%
28.2°E 11023 H 23000 BBC News HD..100%=======100%
26°E 11996 H 27500 Euronews.......79%========74%========59%=============72%========
26°E 12073 H 27500 BBC World News.59%========56%======00%============56%=======
23.5°E 12168 V 27500 Ocko Star....100%=======84%==
21.6°E 11681 H 3220 Rudaw TV......77%========70%
19.2°E 11229 V 22000 BBC World HD.100%=======74%
19.2°E 12604 H 22000 Sky News Int.92%========88%
16°E 11512 V 29950 TVR Int........100%=======82%
16°E 12638 H 10833 RTSH Sat HD....84%========66%
16°E 11055 V 27500 CT24 HD........74%========64%
13°E 11373 H 27500 NASA TV HD.....100%=======95%
10°E 11346 H 27500 Turkmeneli HD..98%========77%
10°E 11645 H 4800 Kurdistan HD....77%========66%
9°E 11861 H 27500 BBC World.......100%=======98%
7°E 10804 V 30000 TRT Sport HD....100%=======70%
7°E 11471 H 30000 Diyanet TV HD...92%========74%
4.8°E 12073 H 27500 News One......100%=======98%
4.8°E 11996 H 27500 TBN Nordic....66%=======60%
3.1°E 11654 H 4444 2M Monde.......100%======100%
3.1°E 12702 H 13960 Ant1..........69%=======64%
1.9°E 12456 H 3000 RTP Int........100%=====100%

0.8°W 11900 H 28000 Music Ch......100%======92%
1.0°W 12643 V 28800 TV5 Monde HD..90%=======70%
3.0°W 12739 V 13172 Retecapri.....77%=======60%
3.9°W 12340 H 17900 12 Kanal......56%
3.9°W 12410 H 20833 4 Kanal.......44%
3.9°W 12354 H 3333 Romania TV.....33%
4.0°W 10758 V 30000 Teszt V.......56%
5.0°W 11554 V 29950 Fransat Info..100%
7.3°W 12417 H 27500 Dubai One HD..45%
8.0°W 11053 H 27500 beIN Sports HD.50%
14°W 10974 H 2963 Al Manor........84%
15°W 11568 H 2678 BYU............100%
15°W 11589 H 3400 Dad4/5.........60%
22°W 11162 H 14367 NHL 1........100%
30°W 10890 V 27500 Al Jazeera...100%

The Inverto PLL needs to be nearer to the dish so I may have to saw a few inches off the Lnb arm ?
I improved the 201+ readings by pushing the Lnb forward as far as it will go then the rain came so
Test halted for now.
 

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%= Signal Quality
Strongest & Weakest Transponders
OP Gibertini 100 XP Octagon SX88 Optima 50°east to 34.5°west=======Re check during rain==
==================Inverto Black Ultra==Golden Media 201+==Inverto PLL=Inverto Black Ultra
50°E 11196 V 2222 Turksat Tanitim.92%========98%========= ================
46°E 11135 H 27500 CBC Sport HD...92%========84%=========
46°E 11025 V 12700 ARB 24 HD......77%========64%=========
45°E 11515 V 30000 NKTV Evrokom...100%=======100%
42°E 11054 V 30000 TRT World HD...100%=======100%
42°E 11045 H 4800 Show Turk.......69%========66%
39°E 10730 H 30000 Muvi 2.........100%=======100%
39°E 12224 H 13380 ERT Sport......87%========82%
36°E 11345 H 30000 BNT 4..........95%========92%
36°E 11500 V 5786 CNC-HD..........57%========52%
33.1°E 12645 H 13910 BNT 3........77%========69%
28.2°E 11023 H 23000 BBC News HD..100%=======100%
26°E 11996 H 27500 Euronews.......79%========74%========59%=============72%========
26°E 12073 H 27500 BBC World News.59%========56%======00%============56%=======
23.5°E 12168 V 27500 Ocko Star....100%=======84%==
21.6°E 11681 H 3220 Rudaw TV......77%========70%
19.2°E 11229 V 22000 BBC World HD.100%=======74%
19.2°E 12604 H 22000 Sky News Int.92%========88%
16°E 11512 V 29950 TVR Int........100%=======82%
16°E 12638 H 10833 RTSH Sat HD....84%========66%
16°E 11055 V 27500 CT24 HD........74%========64%
13°E 11373 H 27500 NASA TV HD.....100%=======95%
10°E 11346 H 27500 Turkmeneli HD..98%========77%
10°E 11645 H 4800 Kurdistan HD....77%========66%
9°E 11861 H 27500 BBC World.......100%=======98%
7°E 10804 V 30000 TRT Sport HD....100%=======70%
7°E 11471 H 30000 Diyanet TV HD...92%========74%
4.8°E 12073 H 27500 News One......100%=======98%
4.8°E 11996 H 27500 TBN Nordic....66%=======60%
3.1°E 11654 H 4444 2M Monde.......100%======100%
3.1°E 12702 H 13960 Ant1..........69%=======64%
1.9°E 12456 H 3000 RTP Int........100%=====100%

0.8°W 11900 H 28000 Music Ch......100%======92%
1.0°W 12643 V 28800 TV5 Monde HD..90%=======70%
3.0°W 12739 V 13172 Retecapri.....77%=======60%
3.9°W 12340 H 17900 12 Kanal......56%
3.9°W 12410 H 20833 4 Kanal.......44%
3.9°W 12354 H 3333 Romania TV.....33%
4.0°W 10758 V 30000 Teszt V.......56%
5.0°W 11554 V 29950 Fransat Info..100%
7.3°W 12417 H 27500 Dubai One HD..45%
8.0°W 11053 H 27500 beIN Sports HD.50%
14°W 10974 H 2963 Al Manor........84%
15°W 11568 H 2678 BYU............100%
15°W 11589 H 3400 Dad4/5.........60%
22°W 11162 H 14367 NHL 1........100%
30°W 10890 V 27500 Al Jazeera...100%

The Inverto PLL needs to be nearer to the dish so I may have to saw a few inches off the Lnb arm ?
I improved the 201+ readings by pushing the Lnb forward as far as it will go then the rain came so
Test halted for now.
From my testing there is little gain in adjusting the neck of the PLL LNB. I could take it one cm forward or backwards with no big difference in signal. Little to gain here. I guess because once the signal enters the LNB it does not matter so much as long it's in center, so you should have no worries.
 

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Signal perhaps, but it can with a matched feed ( ie. elliptical to elliptical, remove over illumination and background interference.

Many dish manufacturers of offset dishes will have a focal point that under illuminates, because of the lack of matched feed or the regions where sales using generic LNBFs matter most means they just don’t care.
 

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LNB test 24th Oct 2020==============25th Oct========26th Oct========

%= Signal Quality
Strongest & Weakest Transponders
OP Gibertini 100 XP Octagon SX88 Optima 50°east to 34.5°west=======

Inverto Black Ultra**===========[test-1]=[test-2]={Golden Media 201+}=={Inverto PLL}
46°E 11135 H 27500 CBC Sport HD...92%=====90%=====
46°E 11025 V 12700 ARB 24 HD......77%=====77%=====
45°E 11515 V 30000 NKTV Evrokom...100%====100%====
42°E 11054 V 30000 TRT World HD...100%====100%====
42°E 11045 H 4800 Show Turk.......69%=====84%=====
39°E 10730 H 30000 Muvi 2.........100%====100%====
39°E 12224 H 13380 ERT Sport......87%=====92%=====
36°E 11345 H 30000 BNT 4..........95%=====95%
36°E 11500 V 5786 CNC-HD..........57%=====59%
33.1°E 12645 H 13910 BNT 3........77%=====79%
28.2°E 11023 H 23000 BBC News HD..100%====100%
26°E 11996 H 27500 Euronews.......79%=====84%
26°E 12073 H 27500 BBC World News.59%=====64%
23.5°E 12168 V 27500 Ocko Star....100%====100%
21.6°E 11681 H 3220 Rudaw TV......77%=====79%
19.2°E 11229 V 22000 BBC World HD.100%====100%
19.2°E 12604 H 22000 Sky News Int.92%=====98%
16°E 11512 V 29950 TVR Int........100%====100%
16°E 12638 H 10833 RTSH Sat HD....84%=====87%
16°E 11055 V 27500 CT24 HD........74%=====77%
13°E 11373 H 27500 NASA TV HD.....100%====100%
10°E 11346 H 27500 Turkmeneli HD..98%=====100%
10°E 11645 H 4800 Kurdistan HD....77%=====82%
9°E 11861 H 27500 BBC World.......100%====100%
7°E 10804 V 30000 TRT Sport HD....100%====100%
7°E 11471 H 30000 Diyanet TV HD...92%=====92%
4.8°E 12073 H 27500 News One......100%====100%
4.8°E 11996 H 27500 TBN Nordic....66%=====74%
3.1°E 11654 H 4444 2M Monde.......100%====100%
3.1°E 12702 H 13960 Ant1..........69%=====77%
1.9°E 12456 H 3000 RTP Int........100%====100%

0.8°W 11900 H 28000 Music Ch......100%====100%
1.0°W 12643 V 28800 TV5 Monde HD..90%=====95%
3.0°W 12739 V 13172 Retecapri.....77%=====84%
3.9°W 12340 H 17900 12 Kanal......56%=====56%
3.9°W 12410 H 20833 4 Kanal.......44%=====40%
3.9°W 12354 H 3333 Romania TV.....33%=====40%
4.0°W 10758 V 30000 Teszt V.......56%=====59%
5.0°W 11554 V 29950 Fransat Info..100%====100%
7.3°W 12417 H 27500 Dubai One HD..45%=====56%
8.0°W 11053 H 27500 beIN Sports...50%=====52%
14°W 10974 H 2963 Al Manor.......84%=====87%
15°W 11568 H 2678 BYU...........100%=====100%
15°W 11589 H 3400 Dad4/5.........60%=====66%
22°W 11162 H 14367 NHL 1........100%=====100%
30°W 10890 V 27500 Al Jazeera...100%=====100%

[OP Gibertini 100 XP Lnb Arm reduced in length by 23mm for test-2**]

At least the Inverto Black Ultra is in a more normal position & not fully forward in the Lnb holder,
So more tests later this week with various Lnb's recently bought .
 

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LNB test 24th Oct 2020==============25th Oct================26th Oct========
[%= Signal Quality]
Strongest & Weakest Transponders
OP Gibertini 100 XP Octagon SX88 Optima 50°east to 30°west=======This list was compiled by William-1

Inverto Black Ultra**===========[test-1]=[test-2]={Golden Media 201+}=={Inverto PLL}
50°E 11196 V 2222 Turksat Tantinim98%=====98%=========92%=================90%
46°E 11135 H 27500 CBC Sport HD...92%=====90%=========87%=================84%
46°E 11025 V 12700 ARB 24 HD......77%=====77%=========69%=================69%
45°E 11515 V 30000 NKTV Evrokom...100%====100%========100%================100%
42°E 11054 V 30000 TRT World HD...100%====100%========100%================100%
42°E 11045 H 4800 Show Turk.......69%=====84%=========84%=================87%
39°E 10730 H 30000 Muvi 2.........100%====100%========100%================100%
39°E 12224 H 13380 ERT Sport......87%=====92%=========84%=================79%
36°E 11345 H 30000 BNT 4..........95%=====95%=========92%=================90%
36°E 11500 V 5786 CNC-HD..........57%=====59%=========44%=================44%
33.1°E 12645 H 13910 BNT 3........77%=====79%=========74%=================69%
28.2°E 11023 H 23000 BBC News HD..100%====100%=======100%=================100%
26°E 11996 H 27500 Euronews.......79%=====84%=========79%=================79%
26°E 12073 H 27500 BBC World News.59%=====64%=========66%=================66%
23.5°E 12168 V 27500 Ocko Star....100%====100%========98%=================100%
21.6°E 11681 H 3220 Rudaw TV......77%=====82%=========90%=================84%
19.2°E 11229 V 22000 BBC World HD.100%====100%========95%=================100%
19.2°E 12604 H 22000 Sky News Int.92%=====98%=========84%=================92%
16°E 11512 V 29950 TVR Int........100%====100%========100%================100%
16°E 12638 H 10833 RTSH Sat HD....84%=====87%=========87%=================84%
16°E 11055 V 27500 CT24 HD........74%=====77%=========69%=================69%
13°E 11373 H 27500 NASA TV HD.....100%====100%========100%===============100%
10°E 11346 H 27500 Turkmeneli HD..98%=====100%========100%================98%
10°E 11645 H 4800 Kurdistan HD....77%=====82%==========79%================77%
9°E 11861 H 27500 BBC World.......100%====100%========100%================100%
7°E 10804 V 30000 TRT Sport HD....100%====100%========100%================100%
7°E 11471 H 30000 Diyanet TV HD...92%=====92%=========100%================100%
4.8°E 12073 H 27500 News One......100%====100%========100%================100%
4.8°E 11996 H 27500 TBN Nordic....66%=====74%==========66%================66%
3.1°E 11654 H 4444 2M Monde.......100%====100%========100%================100%
3.1°E 12702 H 13960 Ant1..........69%=====77%=========69%=================69%
1.9°E 12456 H 3000 RTP Int........100%====100%========100%================100%

0.8°W 11900 H 28000 Music Ch......100%====100%========100%================100%
1.0°W 12643 V 28800 TV5 Monde HD..90%=====95%==========79%================84%
3.0°W 12739 V 13172 Retecapri.....77%=====84%==========66%================79%
3.9°W 12340 H 17900 12 Kanal......56%=====56%==========52%================56%
3.9°W 12410 H 20833 4 Kanal.......44%=====40%==========33%================40%
3.9°W 12354 H 3333 Romania TV.....33%=====40%==========33%================33%
4.0°W 10758 V 30000 Teszt V.......56%=====59%==========52%================52%
5.0°W 11554 V 29950 Fransat Info..100%====100%========100%===============100%
7.3°W 12417 H 27500 Dubai One HD..45%=====56%==========44%================44%
8.0°W 11053 H 27500 beIN Sports...50%=====52%==========52%================52%
14°W 10974 H 2963 Al Manor........84%=====87%==========66%================66%
15°W 11568 H 2678 BYU...........100%=====100%==========100%===============100%
15°W 11589 H 3400 Dad4/5.........60%=====66%============56%===============56%
22°W 11162 H 14367 NHL 1........100%=====100%===========100%==============100%
22°W 12674 H 20740 Algeria.......=========40%===========40%===============40%
30°W 10890 V 27500 Al Jazeera...100%=====100%===========100%==============100%

[OP Gibertini 100 XP Lnb Arm reduced in length by 23mm for test-2**& all proceeding Lnb tests]

At least the Inverto Black Ultra is in a more normal position & not fully forward in the Lnb holder,
Tests with Golden Media 201+ & Inverto PLL improved signals where there was none with the reduced length Lnb arm.
All 3 Lnb's performed very well some variations in readings are probably due to weather conditions.
 

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OP Gibertini 100 XP+ Inverto Black Ultra 0.2
Superior Dark Motor (160° max)
(50 east to 34.5 west)
TM6902HD (A/B switch) Octagon SX88+Optima

Raven 88cm Mesh Dish + TM-1 0.1
Stab100 H to H (120° max)
(53 east to 45 west)
Octagon SX88+ (A/B switch) Edision S2

45cm dish V8 Golden 28E FreeSat Quad Lnb
Virgin Media FreeSat
My Location
Epping Forest Essex
LNB test 24th Oct 2020==============25th Oct================26th Oct======== Lnb Test final results 26th Oct 2020
[%= Signal Quality]
Strongest & Weakest Transponders
OP Gibertini 100 XP Octagon SX88 Optima 50°east to 30°west=======This list was compiled by William-1
====================Tm6902HD with Inverto PLL as this was the last Lnb in my test I am leving it on
Inverto Black Ultra**===========[test-1]=[test-2]={Golden Media 201+}=={Inverto PLL}+ TM6902HD===
50°E 11196 V 2222 Turksat Tantinim98%=====98%=========92%=================90%===========79%======
46°E 11135 H 27500 CBC Sport HD...92%=====90%=========87%=================84%===========75%======
46°E 11025 V 12700 ARB 24 HD......77%=====77%=========69%=================69%===========68%======
45°E 11515 V 30000 NKTV Evrokom...100%====100%========100%================100%==========85%======
42°E 11054 V 30000 TRT World HD...100%====100%========100%================100%==========84%======
42°E 11045 H 4800 Show Turk.......69%=====84%=========84%=================87%===========77%======
39°E 10730 H 30000 Muvi 2.........100%====100%========100%================100%==========85%======
39°E 12224 H 13380 ERT Sport......87%=====92%=========84%=================79%===========73%======
36°E 11345 H 30000 BNT 4..........95%=====95%=========92%=================90%===========75%======
36°E 11500 V 5786 CNC-HD..........57%=====59%=========44%=================44%===========60%======
33.1°E 12645 H 13910 BNT 3........77%=====79%=========74%=================69%
33.1°E 12722 V 16726 Polsat News..=======================================================73%=====
28.2°E 11023 H 23000 BBC News HD..100%====100%=======100%=================100%===========89%=====
26°E 11996 H 27500 Euronews.......79%=====84%=========79%=================79%============73%=====
26°E 12073 H 27500 BBC World News.59%=====64%=========66%=================66%============66%=====
23.5°E 12168 V 27500 Ocko Star....100%====100%========98%=================100%===========83%=====
21.6°E 11681 H 3220 Rudaw TV......77%=====82%=========90%=================84%============75%=====
19.2°E 11229 V 22000 BBC World HD.100%====100%========95%=================100%===========83%=====
19.2°E 12604 H 22000 Sky News Int.92%=====98%=========84%=================92%============75%=====
16°E 11512 V 29950 TVR Int........100%====100%========100%================100%===========83%=====
16°E 12638 H 10833 RTSH Sat HD....84%=====87%=========87%=================84%============70%=====
16°E 11055 V 27500 CT24 HD........74%=====77%=========69%=================69%============70%=====
13°E 11373 H 27500 NASA TV HD.....100%====100%========100%===============100%============82%=====
10°E 11346 H 27500 Turkmeneli HD..98%=====100%========100%================98%============81%=====
10°E 11645 H 4800 Kurdistan HD....77%=====82%==========79%================77%============71%=====
9°E 11861 H 27500 BBC World.......100%====100%========100%================100%===========83%=====
7°E 10804 V 30000 TRT Sport HD....100%====100%========100%================100%===========82%=====
7°E 11471 H 30000 Diyanet TV HD...92%=====92%=========100%================100%===========83%=====
4.8°E 12073 H 27500 News One......100%====100%========100%================100%===========79%=====
4.8°E 11996 H 27500 TBN Nordic....66%=====74%==========66%================66%============70%=====
3.1°E 11654 H 4444 2M Monde.......100%====100%========100%================100%===========85%=====
3.1°E 12702 H 13960 Ant1..........69%=====77%=========69%=================69%============71%=====
1.9°E 12456 H 3000 RTP Int........100%====100%========100%================100%===========87%=====

0.8°W 11900 H 28000 Music Ch......100%====100%========100%================100%===========83%=====
1.0°W 12643 V 28800 TV5 Monde HD..90%=====95%==========79%================84%============75%=====
3.0°W 12739 V 13172 Retecapri.....77%=====84%==========66%================79%============73%=====
3.9°W 12340 H 17900 12 Kanal......56%=====56%==========52%================56%============56%=====
3.9°W 12410 H 20833 4 Kanal.......44%=====40%==========33%================40%============54%=====
3.9°W 12354 H 3333 Romania TV.....33%=====40%==========33%================33%============49%=====
4.0°W 10758 V 30000 Teszt V.......56%=====59%==========52%================52%============61%=====
5.0°W 11554 V 29950 Fransat Info..100%====100%========100%===============100%============87%=====
7.3°W 12417 H 27500 Dubai One HD..45%=====56%==========44%================44%============56%=====
8.0°W 11053 H 27500 beIN Sports...50%=====52%==========52%================52%============61%=====
14°W 10974 H 2963 Al Manor........84%=====87%==========66%================66%============72%=====
15°W 11568 H 2678 BYU...........100%=====100%==========100%===============100%===========81%=====
15°W 11589 H 3400 Dad4/5.........60%=====66%============56%===============56%============61%=====
22°W 11162 H 14367 NHL 1........100%=====100%===========100%==============100%===========85%=====
22°W 12674 H 20740 Algeria.......=========40%===========40%===============40%============64%=====
30°W 10890 V 27500 Al Jazeera...100%=====100%===========100%==============100%===========85%=====
34.5°W 11556 H 13500 Clasico TV.=========================================================89%=====
45°W 11605 H 988 China Int radio=========================================================87%=====

[OP Gibertini 100 XP Lnb Arm reduced in length by 23mm for test-2**& all proceeding Lnb tests]

At least the Inverto Black Ultra is in a more normal position & not fully forward in the Lnb holder,
Tests with Golden Media 201+ & Inverto PLL improved signals where there was none with the reduced length Lnb arm.
All 3 Lnb's performed very well some variations in readings are probably due to weather conditions.

[Last test with TM6902HD OP Gibertini 100 XP + Inverto PLL the SQ is lower but just as strong a signal & is a more realistic
scale than the SX88 series.]
 

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Master Focus 90cm .Gigablue UHD Quad 4K on TM 2600 motor. *Tm 5402 HD M3, *Atemio Nemesis. *Not Used.
My Location
Southern England
I was wondering if a Inverto Flange Single Idlb/SINFO1/Oopro/OPP is much difference than a Invacom Flange Single SNF-03. The price difference is amazing.

 

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My Satellite Setup
Laminas 1.2m Dish, Zgemma H7S (main), Octagon SF8008 (2nd), Octagon SX88 (3rd)
My Location
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LNB test 24th Oct 2020==============25th Oct================26th Oct======== Lnb Test final results 26th Oct 2020
[%= Signal Quality]
Strongest & Weakest Transponders
OP Gibertini 100 XP Octagon SX88 Optima 50°east to 30°west=======This list was compiled by William-1
====================Tm6902HD with Inverto PLL as this was the last Lnb in my test I am leving it on
Inverto Black Ultra**===========[test-1]=[test-2]={Golden Media 201+}=={Inverto PLL}+ TM6902HD===
50°E 11196 V 2222 Turksat Tantinim98%=====98%=========92%=================90%===========79%======
46°E 11135 H 27500 CBC Sport HD...92%=====90%=========87%=================84%===========75%======
46°E 11025 V 12700 ARB 24 HD......77%=====77%=========69%=================69%===========68%======
45°E 11515 V 30000 NKTV Evrokom...100%====100%========100%================100%==========85%======
42°E 11054 V 30000 TRT World HD...100%====100%========100%================100%==========84%======
42°E 11045 H 4800 Show Turk.......69%=====84%=========84%=================87%===========77%======
39°E 10730 H 30000 Muvi 2.........100%====100%========100%================100%==========85%======
39°E 12224 H 13380 ERT Sport......87%=====92%=========84%=================79%===========73%======
36°E 11345 H 30000 BNT 4..........95%=====95%=========92%=================90%===========75%======
36°E 11500 V 5786 CNC-HD..........57%=====59%=========44%=================44%===========60%======
33.1°E 12645 H 13910 BNT 3........77%=====79%=========74%=================69%
33.1°E 12722 V 16726 Polsat News..=======================================================73%=====
28.2°E 11023 H 23000 BBC News HD..100%====100%=======100%=================100%===========89%=====
26°E 11996 H 27500 Euronews.......79%=====84%=========79%=================79%============73%=====
26°E 12073 H 27500 BBC World News.59%=====64%=========66%=================66%============66%=====
23.5°E 12168 V 27500 Ocko Star....100%====100%========98%=================100%===========83%=====
21.6°E 11681 H 3220 Rudaw TV......77%=====82%=========90%=================84%============75%=====
19.2°E 11229 V 22000 BBC World HD.100%====100%========95%=================100%===========83%=====
19.2°E 12604 H 22000 Sky News Int.92%=====98%=========84%=================92%============75%=====
16°E 11512 V 29950 TVR Int........100%====100%========100%================100%===========83%=====
16°E 12638 H 10833 RTSH Sat HD....84%=====87%=========87%=================84%============70%=====
16°E 11055 V 27500 CT24 HD........74%=====77%=========69%=================69%============70%=====
13°E 11373 H 27500 NASA TV HD.....100%====100%========100%===============100%============82%=====
10°E 11346 H 27500 Turkmeneli HD..98%=====100%========100%================98%============81%=====
10°E 11645 H 4800 Kurdistan HD....77%=====82%==========79%================77%============71%=====
9°E 11861 H 27500 BBC World.......100%====100%========100%================100%===========83%=====
7°E 10804 V 30000 TRT Sport HD....100%====100%========100%================100%===========82%=====
7°E 11471 H 30000 Diyanet TV HD...92%=====92%=========100%================100%===========83%=====
4.8°E 12073 H 27500 News One......100%====100%========100%================100%===========79%=====
4.8°E 11996 H 27500 TBN Nordic....66%=====74%==========66%================66%============70%=====
3.1°E 11654 H 4444 2M Monde.......100%====100%========100%================100%===========85%=====
3.1°E 12702 H 13960 Ant1..........69%=====77%=========69%=================69%============71%=====
1.9°E 12456 H 3000 RTP Int........100%====100%========100%================100%===========87%=====

0.8°W 11900 H 28000 Music Ch......100%====100%========100%================100%===========83%=====
1.0°W 12643 V 28800 TV5 Monde HD..90%=====95%==========79%================84%============75%=====
3.0°W 12739 V 13172 Retecapri.....77%=====84%==========66%================79%============73%=====
3.9°W 12340 H 17900 12 Kanal......56%=====56%==========52%================56%============56%=====
3.9°W 12410 H 20833 4 Kanal.......44%=====40%==========33%================40%============54%=====
3.9°W 12354 H 3333 Romania TV.....33%=====40%==========33%================33%============49%=====
4.0°W 10758 V 30000 Teszt V.......56%=====59%==========52%================52%============61%=====
5.0°W 11554 V 29950 Fransat Info..100%====100%========100%===============100%============87%=====
7.3°W 12417 H 27500 Dubai One HD..45%=====56%==========44%================44%============56%=====
8.0°W 11053 H 27500 beIN Sports...50%=====52%==========52%================52%============61%=====
14°W 10974 H 2963 Al Manor........84%=====87%==========66%================66%============72%=====
15°W 11568 H 2678 BYU...........100%=====100%==========100%===============100%===========81%=====
15°W 11589 H 3400 Dad4/5.........60%=====66%============56%===============56%============61%=====
22°W 11162 H 14367 NHL 1........100%=====100%===========100%==============100%===========85%=====
22°W 12674 H 20740 Algeria.......=========40%===========40%===============40%============64%=====
30°W 10890 V 27500 Al Jazeera...100%=====100%===========100%==============100%===========85%=====
34.5°W 11556 H 13500 Clasico TV.=========================================================89%=====
45°W 11605 H 988 China Int radio=========================================================87%=====

[OP Gibertini 100 XP Lnb Arm reduced in length by 23mm for test-2**& all proceeding Lnb tests]

At least the Inverto Black Ultra is in a more normal position & not fully forward in the Lnb holder,
Tests with Golden Media 201+ & Inverto PLL improved signals where there was none with the reduced length Lnb arm.
All 3 Lnb's performed very well some variations in readings are probably due to weather conditions.

[Last test with TM6902HD OP Gibertini 100 XP + Inverto PLL the SQ is lower but just as strong a signal & is a more realistic
scale than the SX88 series.]

Hey mate, i find your testing hard to follow.

What was your conclusion - was the older \ normal IBU better than the new PREMIUM PLL one?
 

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OP Gibertini 100 XP+ Inverto Black Ultra 0.2
Superior Dark Motor (160° max)
(50 east to 34.5 west)
TM6902HD (A/B switch) Octagon SX88+Optima

Raven 88cm Mesh Dish + TM-1 0.1
Stab100 H to H (120° max)
(53 east to 45 west)
Octagon SX88+ (A/B switch) Edision S2

45cm dish V8 Golden 28E FreeSat Quad Lnb
Virgin Media FreeSat
My Location
Epping Forest Essex
The older IBU was better overall with the shortened Lnb Arm.
 
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