Any lnb test reviews lately?

[ymttt]

Yes I have for feeds the Black Ultra is best especially for weak signals,
For DTH broadcasts the pll was better as it did not overload on very strong transponders unlike the IBU.

Grateful for this info. Extremely helpful.

 

[ymttt]

@william-1 and anyone else with some results. Do we know which of the golden media lnbf is best for weak DTH signals and is anything else beating it?

 

[ymttt]

LNB test 24th Oct 2020==============25th Oct================26th Oct========
[%= Signal Quality]
Strongest & Weakest Transponders
OP Gibertini 100 XP Octagon SX88 Optima 50°east to 30°west=======This list was compiled by William-1

Inverto Black Ultra**===========[test-1]=[test-2]={Golden Media 201+}=={Inverto PLL}
50°E 11196 V 2222 Turksat Tantinim98%=====98%=========92%=================90%
46°E 11135 H 27500 CBC Sport HD...92%=====90%=========87%=================84%
46°E 11025 V 12700 ARB 24 HD......77%=====77%=========69%=================69%
45°E 11515 V 30000 NKTV Evrokom...100%====100%========100%================100%
42°E 11054 V 30000 TRT World HD...100%====100%========100%================100%
42°E 11045 H 4800 Show Turk.......69%=====84%=========84%=================87%
39°E 10730 H 30000 Muvi 2.........100%====100%========100%================100%
39°E 12224 H 13380 ERT Sport......87%=====92%=========84%=================79%
36°E 11345 H 30000 BNT 4..........95%=====95%=========92%=================90%
36°E 11500 V 5786 CNC-HD..........57%=====59%=========44%=================44%
33.1°E 12645 H 13910 BNT 3........77%=====79%=========74%=================69%
28.2°E 11023 H 23000 BBC News HD..100%====100%=======100%=================100%
26°E 11996 H 27500 Euronews.......79%=====84%=========79%=================79%
26°E 12073 H 27500 BBC World News.59%=====64%=========66%=================66%
23.5°E 12168 V 27500 Ocko Star....100%====100%========98%=================100%
21.6°E 11681 H 3220 Rudaw TV......77%=====82%=========90%=================84%
19.2°E 11229 V 22000 BBC World HD.100%====100%========95%=================100%
19.2°E 12604 H 22000 Sky News Int.92%=====98%=========84%=================92%
16°E 11512 V 29950 TVR Int........100%====100%========100%================100%
16°E 12638 H 10833 RTSH Sat HD....84%=====87%=========87%=================84%
16°E 11055 V 27500 CT24 HD........74%=====77%=========69%=================69%
13°E 11373 H 27500 NASA TV HD.....100%====100%========100%===============100%
10°E 11346 H 27500 Turkmeneli HD..98%=====100%========100%================98%
10°E 11645 H 4800 Kurdistan HD....77%=====82%==========79%================77%
9°E 11861 H 27500 BBC World.......100%====100%========100%================100%
7°E 10804 V 30000 TRT Sport HD....100%====100%========100%================100%
7°E 11471 H 30000 Diyanet TV HD...92%=====92%=========100%================100%
4.8°E 12073 H 27500 News One......100%====100%========100%================100%
4.8°E 11996 H 27500 TBN Nordic....66%=====74%==========66%================66%
3.1°E 11654 H 4444 2M Monde.......100%====100%========100%================100%
3.1°E 12702 H 13960 Ant1..........69%=====77%=========69%=================69%
1.9°E 12456 H 3000 RTP Int........100%====100%========100%================100%

0.8°W 11900 H 28000 Music Ch......100%====100%========100%================100%
1.0°W 12643 V 28800 TV5 Monde HD..90%=====95%==========79%================84%
3.0°W 12739 V 13172 Retecapri.....77%=====84%==========66%================79%
3.9°W 12340 H 17900 12 Kanal......56%=====56%==========52%================56%
3.9°W 12410 H 20833 4 Kanal.......44%=====40%==========33%================40%
3.9°W 12354 H 3333 Romania TV.....33%=====40%==========33%================33%
4.0°W 10758 V 30000 Teszt V.......56%=====59%==========52%================52%
5.0°W 11554 V 29950 Fransat Info..100%====100%========100%===============100%
7.3°W 12417 H 27500 Dubai One HD..45%=====56%==========44%================44%
8.0°W 11053 H 27500 beIN Sports...50%=====52%==========52%================52%
14°W 10974 H 2963 Al Manor........84%=====87%==========66%================66%
15°W 11568 H 2678 BYU...........100%=====100%==========100%===============100%
15°W 11589 H 3400 Dad4/5.........60%=====66%============56%===============56%
22°W 11162 H 14367 NHL 1........100%=====100%===========100%==============100%
22°W 12674 H 20740 Algeria.......=========40%===========40%===============40%
30°W 10890 V 27500 Al Jazeera...100%=====100%===========100%==============100%

[OP Gibertini 100 XP Lnb Arm reduced in length by 23mm for test-2**& all proceeding Lnb tests]

At least the Inverto Black Ultra is in a more normal position & not fully forward in the Lnb holder,
Tests with Golden Media 201+ & Inverto PLL improved signals where there was none with the reduced length Lnb arm.
All 3 Lnb's performed very well some variations in readings are probably due to weather conditions.

Willam-1, need help here. I see three lnbs are up for testing but in most cases I see four results and don't know what lnb the fourth reading is for.

 

[dmaavrigdo]

Willam-1, need help here. I see three lnbs are up for testing but in most cases I see four results and don't know what lnb the fourth reading is for.

Inverto Black Ultra**===========[test-1]=[test-2]={Golden Media 201+}=={Inverto PLL}
-------------------------------------------------1-----------2----------------3---------------------------4

 

[ymttt]

Inverto Black Ultra**===========[test-1]=[test-2]={Golden Media 201+}=={Inverto PLL}
-------------------------------------------------1-----------2----------------3---------------------------4

Meaning both test 1 and two are for ibu DRO?

 

[ymttt]

How

LNB test 24th Oct 2020==============25th Oct================26th Oct======== Lnb Test final results 26th Oct 2020
[%= Signal Quality]
Strongest & Weakest Transponders
OP Gibertini 100 XP Octagon SX88 Optima 50°east to 30°west=======This list was compiled by William-1
====================Tm6902HD with Inverto PLL as this was the last Lnb in my test I am leving it on
Inverto Black Ultra**===========[test-1]=[test-2]={Golden Media 201+}=={Inverto PLL}+ TM6902HD===
50°E 11196 V 2222 Turksat Tantinim98%=====98%=========92%=================90%===========79%======
46°E 11135 H 27500 CBC Sport HD...92%=====90%=========87%=================84%===========75%======
46°E 11025 V 12700 ARB 24 HD......77%=====77%=========69%=================69%===========68%======
45°E 11515 V 30000 NKTV Evrokom...100%====100%========100%================100%==========85%======
42°E 11054 V 30000 TRT World HD...100%====100%========100%================100%==========84%======
42°E 11045 H 4800 Show Turk.......69%=====84%=========84%=================87%===========77%======
39°E 10730 H 30000 Muvi 2.........100%====100%========100%================100%==========85%======
39°E 12224 H 13380 ERT Sport......87%=====92%=========84%=================79%===========73%======
36°E 11345 H 30000 BNT 4..........95%=====95%=========92%=================90%===========75%======
36°E 11500 V 5786 CNC-HD..........57%=====59%=========44%=================44%===========60%======
33.1°E 12645 H 13910 BNT 3........77%=====79%=========74%=================69%
33.1°E 12722 V 16726 Polsat News..=======================================================73%=====
28.2°E 11023 H 23000 BBC News HD..100%====100%=======100%=================100%===========89%=====
26°E 11996 H 27500 Euronews.......79%=====84%=========79%=================79%============73%=====
26°E 12073 H 27500 BBC World News.59%=====64%=========66%=================66%============66%=====
23.5°E 12168 V 27500 Ocko Star....100%====100%========98%=================100%===========83%=====
21.6°E 11681 H 3220 Rudaw TV......77%=====82%=========90%=================84%============75%=====
19.2°E 11229 V 22000 BBC World HD.100%====100%========95%=================100%===========83%=====
19.2°E 12604 H 22000 Sky News Int.92%=====98%=========84%=================92%============75%=====
16°E 11512 V 29950 TVR Int........100%====100%========100%================100%===========83%=====
16°E 12638 H 10833 RTSH Sat HD....84%=====87%=========87%=================84%============70%=====
16°E 11055 V 27500 CT24 HD........74%=====77%=========69%=================69%============70%=====
13°E 11373 H 27500 NASA TV HD.....100%====100%========100%===============100%============82%=====
10°E 11346 H 27500 Turkmeneli HD..98%=====100%========100%================98%============81%=====
10°E 11645 H 4800 Kurdistan HD....77%=====82%==========79%================77%============71%=====
9°E 11861 H 27500 BBC World.......100%====100%========100%================100%===========83%=====
7°E 10804 V 30000 TRT Sport HD....100%====100%========100%================100%===========82%=====
7°E 11471 H 30000 Diyanet TV HD...92%=====92%=========100%================100%===========83%=====
4.8°E 12073 H 27500 News One......100%====100%========100%================100%===========79%=====
4.8°E 11996 H 27500 TBN Nordic....66%=====74%==========66%================66%============70%=====
3.1°E 11654 H 4444 2M Monde.......100%====100%========100%================100%===========85%=====
3.1°E 12702 H 13960 Ant1..........69%=====77%=========69%=================69%============71%=====
1.9°E 12456 H 3000 RTP Int........100%====100%========100%================100%===========87%=====

0.8°W 11900 H 28000 Music Ch......100%====100%========100%================100%===========83%=====
1.0°W 12643 V 28800 TV5 Monde HD..90%=====95%==========79%================84%============75%=====
3.0°W 12739 V 13172 Retecapri.....77%=====84%==========66%================79%============73%=====
3.9°W 12340 H 17900 12 Kanal......56%=====56%==========52%================56%============56%=====
3.9°W 12410 H 20833 4 Kanal.......44%=====40%==========33%================40%============54%=====
3.9°W 12354 H 3333 Romania TV.....33%=====40%==========33%================33%============49%=====
4.0°W 10758 V 30000 Teszt V.......56%=====59%==========52%================52%============61%=====
5.0°W 11554 V 29950 Fransat Info..100%====100%========100%===============100%============87%=====
7.3°W 12417 H 27500 Dubai One HD..45%=====56%==========44%================44%============56%=====
8.0°W 11053 H 27500 beIN Sports...50%=====52%==========52%================52%============61%=====
14°W 10974 H 2963 Al Manor........84%=====87%==========66%================66%============72%=====
15°W 11568 H 2678 BYU...........100%=====100%==========100%===============100%===========81%=====
15°W 11589 H 3400 Dad4/5.........60%=====66%============56%===============56%============61%=====
22°W 11162 H 14367 NHL 1........100%=====100%===========100%==============100%===========85%=====
22°W 12674 H 20740 Algeria.......=========40%===========40%===============40%============64%=====
30°W 10890 V 27500 Al Jazeera...100%=====100%===========100%==============100%===========85%=====
34.5°W 11556 H 13500 Clasico TV.=========================================================89%=====
45°W 11605 H 988 China Int radio=========================================================87%=====

[OP Gibertini 100 XP Lnb Arm reduced in length by 23mm for test-2**& all proceeding Lnb tests]

At least the Inverto Black Ultra is in a more normal position & not fully forward in the Lnb holder,
Tests with Golden Media 201+ & Inverto PLL improved signals where there was none with the reduced length Lnb arm.
All 3 Lnb's performed very well some variations in readings are probably due to weather conditions.

[Last test with TM6902HD OP Gibertini 100 XP + Inverto PLL the SQ is lower but just as strong a signal & is a more realistic
scale than the SX88 series.]

How is this results explained? Three lnbs, five results.

 

[william-1]

How

How is this results explained? Three lnbs, five results.

Expand my results & you will see that more than one receiver was used.

 

[william-1]

Willam-1, need help here. I see three lnbs are up for testing but in most cases I see four results and don't know what lnb the fourth reading is for.

Self explanatory this list includes strongest & weakest transponders.

 

[tompouce]

Good job William, I know it takes a lot of time but it's too bad your results are not mentioned in dB !!

 

[william-1]

Good job William, I know it takes a lot of time but it's too bad your results are not mentioned in dB !!

I no longer have a working receiver that uses dB.

Just Octagon SX series & a couple of old Technomates.

 

[william-1]

I have a TM5402HD M3 & a F/3/5 that need a bit of work with a soldering iron to fix some dry joints,
They both show signals in dB also the data base is about 6 years out of date,

Work in progress.

 

[suedschwede]

Tip, SX88 V2 Dual Os

 

[ymttt]

I have a TM5402HD M3 & a F/3/5 that need a bit of work with a soldering iron to fix some dry joints,
They both show signals in dB also the data base is about 6 years out of date,

Work in progress.

Thanks. Will have a second look

 

[Manikm909]

makes you wonder how it differs from the SF8008 or SF8008 mini....they can both dual boot to either OS , i.e DEFINE OS, or E2, (4 slots in fact) - why did they bother making it after the SX88 (non E2) when the former STB's were out and doing well.

 

[Channel Hopper]

makes you wonder how it differs from the SF8008 or SF8008 mini....they can both dual boot to either OS , i.e DEFINE OS, or E2, (4 slots in fact) - why did they bother making it after the SX88 (non E2) when the former STB's were out and doing well.

I would suspect the cost of manufacture would be key, in a similar vein to the demise of the SF4008 (and the SF918HD before it).

Both have a feel of real quality about them that the 8000 series is missing, the SX88 looks to be of similar build.

 

[suedschwede]

The SX88 V2 Dual Os is comparable to the SF8008m (Mini) but has only one DVB-S2 tuner

 

[Beli1910]

If anyone is interested in Lnb tests, you can view them at the following link. Measurements are made in real time and with a professional measuring instrument.

Razni testovi... - Oprema za praćenje satelitske TV - Satelitski Forum - SF
You dont need log.

 

[Spc..]

Anyone of you compared the old model with new model ?

Old model: Inverto Ultra Black - IDLB-QUDL40-ULTRA-OPP
New model: Inverto Ultra Black - IDLT-QDL412-ULTRA-OPNB ( PLL )

Is the new model from 2022 so much better ?
I am using old model atm for feeds.

Is PLL better for feeds ? or only for "programs" ?

New version difference:

Conversion gain

+10 dB more as old model

Image rejection

+10 dB more as old model

LO temperature drift

- 1.0 MHz less than old model

Quad High-Gain Low-Noise 40mm PLL LNB

Quad High-Gain Low-Noise 40mm PLL LNB

inverto.tv

Specs comparison:

http://netsky.org/inverto/OLD.pdf

http://netsky.org/inverto/OLD.new

 

[Manikm909]

Anyone of you compared the old model with new model ?

Old model: Inverto Ultra Black - IDLB-QUDL40-ULTRA-OPP
New model: Inverto Ultra Black - IDLT-QDL412-ULTRA-OPNB ( PLL )

Is the new model from 2022 so much better ?
I am using old model atm for feeds.

Is PLL better for feeds ? or only for "programs" ?

New version difference:

Conversion gain

+10 dB more

Image rejection

+10 dB more

View attachment 149611

Quad High-Gain Low-Noise 40mm PLL LNB

Quad High-Gain Low-Noise 40mm PLL LNB

inverto.tv

nice - thanks

 

[Beli1910]

Yes is tested-look here and use translate croatian.

LNB-test

Post 690 - and you read on