Astra 1N at 19.2E

[Adam792]

I would like you to add this to your statement:

HEVC is always in progressive format

(HEVC does not support interlaced format)

In theory, but the Czech/Slovak HEVC services on 16°E seem to use an interlaced format - you can see this on CT24.

As for the services on 19.2°E, I'll be curious to see what the arrangements for this new Spanish "HD+" service are, in terms of availability and cost of cards etc.

 

[Tururu]

Change 4-sep-2025.



Feed.


Feed.

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[Old Satterhand]

In theory, but the Czech/Slovak HEVC services on 16°E seem to use an interlaced format - you can see this on CT24.

As for the services on 19.2°E, I'll be curious to see what the arrangements for this new Spanish "HD+" service are, in terms of availability and cost of cards etc.

I've seen 1080x1920 interlaced in a adapted progressive format (540x1920 50 Hz) but only on feeds, not for DTH.
Your receiver can decode it but your picture will be half the vertical size. The even/oneven fields are combined in one picture.
The problem is to know the order of the fields, in the new HEVC standards this is solved but for DTH not yet allowed.

 

[Tururu]

No changes, September 5, 2025.
Two technical links, preferably with an antenna of more than 90 cm.



2 events, preferably with antennas over 90 cm long.
State government commemorative event for Reinhold Jost, Minister of the Interior, Construction, and Sports (DEP).






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[Tururu]

Change 9-sep-2025.



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[Tururu]

Changes 10-sep-2025.




Add new channel TDT Astra 19'2ºE.



Trial in Germany.


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[Tururu]

A new DYN Sport Mix channel on Astra at 19.2°E from SES-Astra on 12110 H 27500 3/4 DVB-S/QPSK.
Plus a new technical link/feed on 11568 V 15000 DVB-S2/8PSK. . is from Spain, OT17S = Operación Triunfo 2025.





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[Tururu]

feed on 11568 V 15000 DVB-S2/8PSK. . is from Spain, OT18S = Operación Triunfo 2025.
Streaming PC (4:2:2)
Be careful with sound checks, you have been warned.

They started...well no, rehearsals of what to say when starting.

It won't be long before it starts and I change the channel.



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[Tururu]

About the OT MAIN feed,
It's not active before 6:00 PM (GMT+1), but it is active now at 6:11 PM (GMT+1).
At first, they left the QR code fixed, but the QR code on the screen keeps changing. They generally start the broadcast at 8:00 PM.
They're broadcasts for Amazon from the OT Academy. I'm not in control of this world.

P.S. For my part, I'm done. I'm off to do other things.
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Sobre el feed OT MAIN,
Antes de las 18:00 no esta activo, ya si 18:11.
Primero dejaron fijo el QR, pero va cambiando el QR de la pantalla, en general, arrancan a las 20:00 la emisión.
Son emisiones para Amazon de la Academia OT, a mi que me registren, este mundo no lo controlo.
PD: Por mi parte fin, voy a pescar otras cosas.

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[Tururu]

No channel changes, just two feeds: the usual one these days (OT MAIN) and a new one. I don't know if I'm late or early to stop the second one. I arrived early. It's for WDR at a flea market. I'm asking the audience, and then it might be a guitar concert. We'll see. They're editing the footage they have.
The Operación Triunfo link doesn't start until 8:00 PM, then it takes an hour and they shut down. I think you can also watch it on Amazon, but I have no idea. Since the decoder is in 4:2:2, our receivers/decoders don't support it, but with Videolang you can watch the recording or stream it to your PC:

Both in 4:2:2
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Sin cambios de canales, solo 2 feed, el de siempre estos días (OT MAIN) y uno nuevo, no se si llego tarde o llego pronto parar el segundo, llegue pronto, es para WDR en un mercadillo, preguntando al publico y luego puede ser un concierto de guitarra, ya se vera, están editando el material que tienen.
El Enlace de Operación Triunfo, hasta las 20:00 (GMT+2 Madrid) no arranca, luego 1 hora y apagan, creo que también se puede ver por Amazón, pero ya ni idea, en el deco por streaming al PC al ser en 4:2:2, nuestros receptores/decos no lo soportan, pero con videolang se puede ver la grabacióon o por streaming al PC:

Los 2 en 4:2:2.



The WDR link has ended with one of the presenters advancing through the tuner.
El enlace de WDR ya fin con uno de los presentadores avanzando por el tuner.


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[Tururu]

19.2ºE unknown satellite.
No changes, just a new feed on a TP that hasn't been used for years.
TP18/11472 V 7500 5/6 DVB-S2/8PSK AVC, HD, but Biss-encrypted.
From SES-Video, titled: NFL SAT RTL Week 3 - Pittsburgh vs New England
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19'2ºE satelite desconocido.
Sin cambios, solo un nuevo feed en un tp que hace años no se usa.
TP18/11472 V 7500 5/6 DVB-S2/8PSK AVC, es HD, pero encriptado en Biss.
De SES-Video, con nombre: NFL SAT RTL Week 3 - Pittsburgh vs New England


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[Tururu]

Today we have a notice from Canal+France urging its users to upgrade their outdated receiver if they want to watch their programs, etc.
On 11934 V 29700 2/3 DVB-S2/8PSK in 1440x1080 quality (still image).
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Hoy tenemos un aviso de canal+Francia para que sus usuarios cambien el receptor que tienen al estar obsoleto si quiere ver sus programas, etc.
En 11934 V 29700 2/3 DVB-S2/8PSK en calidad 1440x1080 (foto fija).


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[Pride Of Cucamonga]

Today we have a notice from Canal+France urging its users to upgrade their outdated receiver if they want to watch their programs, etc.
On 11934 V 29700 2/3 DVB-S2/8PSK in 1440x1080 quality (still image).
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Hoy tenemos un aviso de canal+Francia para que sus usuarios cambien el receptor que tienen al estar obsoleto si quiere ver sus programas, etc.
En 11934 V 29700 2/3 DVB-S2/8PSK en calidad 1440x1080 (foto fija).


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how are they obsolete if they can receive this message, and therefore DVB-S2?

 

[stephan94]

This is what is written in the French trade press.

translation :

Canal+ has announced that it will no longer support its Samsung +Le Cube Satellite decoders, which have become obsolete in the face of new technological developments. The move aims to ensure a better user experience and full access to the services included in the subscription. The decoders in question will soon no longer be compatible with future technical updates to the platform. Canal+ explains that these devices ‘will no longer be able to support future technological developments’, making their replacement inevitable.

Automatic replacement at no cost

Affected subscribers — only those with a Samsung model — will receive a new decoder free of charge, with no re-commitment required. The CANAL+ decoder will be shipped within 2 to 4 weeks after receipt of a notification email. This latest-generation model, a hybrid satellite and internet device, offers 4K quality, ultra-fast navigation thanks to its 8 tuners, and smoother access to content.

The new decoder will be delivered to a collection point, with a text message or email from Chronopost as soon as it is available. The collection address will be specified. The deposit for the old equipment will be automatically transferred to the new one.

This replacement will result in the loss of all recordings stored on the old decoder. Canal+ therefore recommends that subscribers view their content before the change. In addition, the new decoder requires an HDMI connection. For older televisions (SCART only), subscribers can contact an advisor to obtain a suitable version, the Satellite Cube equipped with the New Experience.

 

[Pride Of Cucamonga]

This is what is written in the French trade press.

translation :

Canal+ has announced that it will no longer support its Samsung +Le Cube Satellite decoders, which have become obsolete in the face of new technological developments. The move aims to ensure a better user experience and full access to the services included in the subscription. The decoders in question will soon no longer be compatible with future technical updates to the platform. Canal+ explains that these devices ‘will no longer be able to support future technological developments’, making their replacement inevitable.

Automatic replacement at no cost

Affected subscribers — only those with a Samsung model — will receive a new decoder free of charge, with no re-commitment required. The CANAL+ decoder will be shipped within 2 to 4 weeks after receipt of a notification email. This latest-generation model, a hybrid satellite and internet device, offers 4K quality, ultra-fast navigation thanks to its 8 tuners, and smoother access to content.

The new decoder will be delivered to a collection point, with a text message or email from Chronopost as soon as it is available. The collection address will be specified. The deposit for the old equipment will be automatically transferred to the new one.

This replacement will result in the loss of all recordings stored on the old decoder. Canal+ therefore recommends that subscribers view their content before the change. In addition, the new decoder requires an HDMI connection. For older televisions (SCART only), subscribers can contact an advisor to obtain a suitable version, the Satellite Cube equipped with the New Experience.

thanks. still doesn't explain what is obsolete about it. Maybe a conditional access issue?

 

[Tururu]

thanks. still doesn't explain what is obsolete about it. Maybe a conditional access issue?

Nagra, Viaccess, Seca == == Nagra.

how are they obsolete if they can receive this message, and therefore DVB-S2?

Looking from a distance (Spain) and not knowing what they have now.
It's clear that the new 4K receiver with 8 tuners, most likely FBC, will offer a lot of flexibility up to DVB-S2X (I hope, since we also have the first versions of DVB-S2 with 8 tuners), and being 4K, it supports HEVC and then HD in H265.
In addition to having an IPTV connection for more options.
The FBC tuners represent an increase of €80; I don't know the actual factory price, but it's the cheapest solution for having 8 tuners.
Offering a lot of flexibility in community installations (upgraded to unicable), as well as in individual installations, with a single cable, you can tune 8 channels/frequencies of any band and polarity.

The old receivers are DVB-S2 and H264; by changing the receiver, the advantages and savings on the satellite are very significant.
They can achieve a 51% transmission savings for similar apparent quality.
If it supports PCMCIA and also has standard readers, they already have a great future ahead.
Time will tell.
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Mirando desde la distancia (España) y sin conocer lo que tienen ahora.
Esta claro que el nuevo receptor 4K con 8 tuner, lo mas seguro son FBC, darán mucho juego hasta DVB-S2X (espero, ya que también tenemos DVB-S2 de las primeras versiones con 8 tuner) y al ser 4K, admite HEVC y luego HD en H265.
Aparte de tener conexión IPTV para mas opciones.
Los tuner FBC suponen un incremento de 80€, en fabrica no se el precio real, pero es la solución mas barata para tener 8 sintonizadores.
Dando mucho juego en instalaciones comunitarias (actualizadas a unicable), como en instalaciones individuales, con un solo cable, se puede sintonizar 8 tp/frecuencias de cualquier banda y polaridad.

Los receptores viejos son DVB-S2 y H264, con el cambio de receptor las ventajas y ahorro en el satelite, son muy importantes.
Pueden llegar al 51% en el ahorro de transmisión para tener una calidad aparente similar.
Si admite PCMCIA y también tiene lectores normales ya tienen mucho futuro ganado.
El tiempo dirá.
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[rodscha]

New bunch of (FTA???) channels in Spain? Over astra 19E
I just read this very cryptic article about a new bouquet for Spain

Spanish DVB-I pilot underway

RTVE and FORTA have formally announced the launch of the Spanish DVB-I Pilot that will perform technical evaluations of the DVB-I standard.

www.broadbandtvnews.com

but the technical double-dutch phrasing is too difficult for me.
1)is it another encoding encryption system?
2) another norm,like HEVC or multistreams or 4k?
3)or is it FTA ,so receivable where I live (100kms from Spain as the crow flies)
4)or,else,will there be an FTA test period,then encryption?

 

[Butacas]

DVB-I internet television. It appears to be phased, with subscription TV channel packages available over time.

 

[EnoSat]

New bunch of (FTA???) channels in Spain? Over astra 19E
I just read this very cryptic article about a new bouquet for Spain

Spanish DVB-I pilot underway

RTVE and FORTA have formally announced the launch of the Spanish DVB-I Pilot that will perform technical evaluations of the DVB-I standard.

www.broadbandtvnews.com

but the technical double-dutch phrasing is too difficult for me.
1)is it another encoding encryption system?
2) another norm,like HEVC or multistreams or 4k?
3)or is it FTA ,so receivable where I live (100kms from Spain as the crow flies)
4)or,else,will there be an FTA test period,then encryption?

Essentially, this involves inserting or receiving IP via DVB.

 

[rodscha]

Thank you very much,so....
how does the average user with a smart tv and a dish achieve that?
DVB is the usual digital picture system.(DVB-S/DVBs2 /etc??)
IP ,internet protocol... so what is it?
the internet tv we have already here with "boxes" connected to modems? or something else?