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<blockquote data-quote="Deleted" data-source="post: 17491">Has anyone had any success at all at all with receiving 2D in Berlin? I did once try with my 1m Triax pointing square in the correct direction, but did not get a hint of a ghost of a signal on 2D frequencies, but I do remember reading of someone who got a useable signal, but with a far larger dish. Also, does anyone know if the Beeb intends to shift its radio channels to 2D as well?In the days of the DDR, the Dresden region and the extreme south-east of the country were the only areas not able to receive terrestrial West German televisio. These areas were known as &quot;der Tal der Ahnungslosen&quot; - the Valley of the Clueless. Looks like the Beeb intends to apply that epiphet to most of Europe....Yes, there's always BBC Prime, which has the advantages of being a) on Hotbird and 2) legally subscribable, but compared with the 8 BBC channels on Astra 2x it's not much compensation. Perhaps Aunty could be persuaded to add Prime 2 and Prime 3 and Prime 4 and Prime News and Prime CBBC and Prime Beebies (I think we can dispense with Prime Parliament...).</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Deleted, post: 17491"] Has anyone had any success at all at all with receiving 2D in Berlin? I did once try with my 1m Triax pointing square in the correct direction, but did not get a hint of a ghost of a signal on 2D frequencies, but I do remember reading of someone who got a useable signal, but with a far larger dish. Also, does anyone know if the Beeb intends to shift its radio channels to 2D as well? In the days of the DDR, the Dresden region and the extreme south-east of the country were the only areas not able to receive terrestrial West German televisio. These areas were known as "der Tal der Ahnungslosen" - the Valley of the Clueless. Looks like the Beeb intends to apply that epiphet to most of Europe.... Yes, there's always BBC Prime, which has the advantages of being a) on Hotbird and 2) legally subscribable, but compared with the 8 BBC channels on Astra 2x it's not much compensation. Perhaps Aunty could be persuaded to add Prime 2 and Prime 3 and Prime 4 and Prime News and Prime CBBC and Prime Beebies (I think we can dispense with Prime Parliament...). [/QUOTE]

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