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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Alistair_" data-source="post: 840068" data-attributes="member: 393748">I think we're all agreeing things have turned for the worse, I personally haven't had a glimpse of the fives in more than a month (not that I'm a fan of the 5s, maybe just The Mentalist and the odd Columbo episode..).Is there an updated European map where one can see what kind of dish is required AT PRESENT to get seven4 and the fives? Just to have an idea on what kind of increase in dish size I'm to expect.</blockquote>