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Message: <blockquote data-quote="alec" data-source="post: 834217" data-attributes="member: 176125">Simon has checked his boxes - the one I saw the other day is indeed a Pace 2600C1 (well done, Timo) but the other is an "AXIL AD600" - apparently a French supermarket box bought second hand - that also pulls in C5 24/7.I tried my Foxsat in non-Freesat mode - no difference (found RT HD though!).I have an old (not as old as Simon's) sky box in the loft. Not sure of the make. I'll dig it out and give it a try today.</blockquote>