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Message: <blockquote data-quote="misterminibus" data-source="post: 139392" data-attributes="member: 189287">I can confirm an active sly box is needed I have a dragon and a sly card in it and every month or so it stops working on astra 2 and I have to insert the sly car in the sly box for the night for it to be updated and the put it back in the cam.However the latest software for the dragon is pred 3.22 and the nds has been removed nds means you can use you sly card to view your subscribed or free to view channels and so you now loose itv 1 2 ch4 & ch5 but retain the bbc one's as they are fta the only way you can perhaps get round this is to use pred 3.21 and update the keys so your sly viewing will still work.Does that help or just confuse matters?</blockquote>