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<blockquote data-quote="CodeComplete" data-source="post: 3928"><p>>localised?? My over riding confusion is this. If a proper </p><p>>card can cope then why can a gold card not?????? </p><p></p><p>Goldcards are not copies of an OSC. They contain the same data settings that enable all channels but don't contain the same hex code as an OSC. </p><p></p><p>Now the following is all just my guesswork so someone with better knowledge may shoot it all down in flames...</p><p></p><p>ITV broadcast STB updates from time to time I guess that these updates contain code that is activated by an ECM broadcasts. So the ECM causes the STB to query something from the card - if the correct response isn't given in a certain time frame then the box issues some kind of reset command to the card and the MK/PPUA keys or such like are wiped. The goldcard no longer functions so you program it again and works until that same ECM is issued. </p><p>Meanwhile the guys that write the goldcard hexes are using loggers to detect these new ECM queries or whatever and then recode their hex so that it will give out the correct response and beat that particular ECM so Kevlar 1.62 becomes Kevlar 1.63 etc. </p><p>Meanwhile the ITV boffins get their hands on the latest Kevlar hex and workout the next ECM required to beat the hex. </p><p>And around and around we go until either ITV change the encryption method in the STBs and the hex on the OSC (rumours are that there maybe SECA2 on the way) or they have enough ECMs in the arsenal so that the goldcards hex can't cope with them all because of the memory limit.</p><p></p><p>As I said before that is all just guesswork so maybe a load a cr*p but does illustrate how it could work.</p><p></p><p>From what I've read recently ECM's are broadcast by different transmitters across the country at different times so someone maybe zapped in the Midlands but someone in South using the same goldcard hex isn't. ECM's are only effective on pay channels so Beeb1 doesn't get 'em. ECM's are broadcast at peaktime or when most ITV know goldcards will be being used on the pay channels such as footie matches, or big films.</p><p></p><p>One final thing to watch out for if getting a STB via auction is whether the STB is infact eligible for sale. I suppose you could check this out with ITV by giving them the serial number. For a while it was possible to subscribe to the cheapest prepaid package using cash and give a false name and address. As the box is only on loan during the subscription I assume selling it would be fraud ? Dunno... During the early days of OnDigital the boxes were the property of the subscriber and so these could be sold legally ?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="CodeComplete, post: 3928"] >localised?? My over riding confusion is this. If a proper >card can cope then why can a gold card not?????? Goldcards are not copies of an OSC. They contain the same data settings that enable all channels but don't contain the same hex code as an OSC. Now the following is all just my guesswork so someone with better knowledge may shoot it all down in flames... ITV broadcast STB updates from time to time I guess that these updates contain code that is activated by an ECM broadcasts. So the ECM causes the STB to query something from the card - if the correct response isn't given in a certain time frame then the box issues some kind of reset command to the card and the MK/PPUA keys or such like are wiped. The goldcard no longer functions so you program it again and works until that same ECM is issued. Meanwhile the guys that write the goldcard hexes are using loggers to detect these new ECM queries or whatever and then recode their hex so that it will give out the correct response and beat that particular ECM so Kevlar 1.62 becomes Kevlar 1.63 etc. Meanwhile the ITV boffins get their hands on the latest Kevlar hex and workout the next ECM required to beat the hex. And around and around we go until either ITV change the encryption method in the STBs and the hex on the OSC (rumours are that there maybe SECA2 on the way) or they have enough ECMs in the arsenal so that the goldcards hex can't cope with them all because of the memory limit. As I said before that is all just guesswork so maybe a load a cr*p but does illustrate how it could work. From what I've read recently ECM's are broadcast by different transmitters across the country at different times so someone maybe zapped in the Midlands but someone in South using the same goldcard hex isn't. ECM's are only effective on pay channels so Beeb1 doesn't get 'em. ECM's are broadcast at peaktime or when most ITV know goldcards will be being used on the pay channels such as footie matches, or big films. One final thing to watch out for if getting a STB via auction is whether the STB is infact eligible for sale. I suppose you could check this out with ITV by giving them the serial number. For a while it was possible to subscribe to the cheapest prepaid package using cash and give a false name and address. As the box is only on loan during the subscription I assume selling it would be fraud ? Dunno... During the early days of OnDigital the boxes were the property of the subscriber and so these could be sold legally ? [/QUOTE]
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