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<blockquote data-quote="Channel Hopper" data-source="post: 18493" data-attributes="member: 175144">Rolfs suggestion may actually have been quite relevant if a little alcohol inducedThe 'I' suggests that the person believes in their existence.The question(s) - to oneself, a self induced check on the identity, check on physical location, verification of third person description, and reasoning behind present status, to establish a totality to the existeince and lends credence to the idea of the being having a function (if not a purpose). The extent of searching for more than&nbsp; just a true vectoral position, ignoring the requirements for anything around oneself, shows more than a hint of what I would class as consciousnessHowever the mix of cognac, wine and beer suggest the conscious being is actually trying to commit hari-kiri the night before, and nothing within the questions asked shows any hint of cleaning up the mess left by the excess imbibement, which means remorse is not a part of true consciousness in Rolfws worldI would therefore conclude Rolfw in his suggested state is somewhat low on the scale of consciousness (I believe Ive been there - though not with Cognac as its vile stuff, only fit for use in agricultural vehicles), and therefore levels of consciousness are present, in keeping with a different wattage of lightbulb.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Channel Hopper, post: 18493, member: 175144"] Rolfs suggestion may actually have been quite relevant if a little alcohol induced The 'I' suggests that the person believes in their existence. The question(s) - to oneself, a self induced check on the identity, check on physical location, verification of third person description, and reasoning behind present status, to establish a totality to the existeince and lends credence to the idea of the being having a function (if not a purpose). The extent of searching for more than just a true vectoral position, ignoring the requirements for anything around oneself, shows more than a hint of what I would class as consciousness However the mix of cognac, wine and beer suggest the conscious being is actually trying to commit hari-kiri the night before, and nothing within the questions asked shows any hint of cleaning up the mess left by the excess imbibement, which means remorse is not a part of true consciousness in Rolfws world I would therefore conclude Rolfw in his suggested state is somewhat low on the scale of consciousness (I believe Ive been there - though not with Cognac as its vile stuff, only fit for use in agricultural vehicles), and therefore levels of consciousness are present, in keeping with a different wattage of lightbulb. [/QUOTE]

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