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<blockquote data-quote="boerboel" data-source="post: 7151" data-attributes="member: 175125">thanx nobbly,i will try it this weekend.this is the my first attempts ever to program a wafer card, so could you please tell me the following:when i have data on the eeprom and a program in the pic, and i insert the wafer card into smartmouse, should i then see the correct atr? (when i open the eeprom.hex file with an eeprom editor i can see what the atr should be)can i treat the wafer card as a normal smartcard with normal irdetosoftware which shows the atr,ser no.,hex serial,prov id's,etc. with either a smartmouse, clanzers in srw ,or phoenix readers?(my clanzers have a 3.57 mhz xtal and s'mouse a 6mhz)with my most succes this far, i got an atr with all ff's in all fields,and no luck to use any crd's on it.can the usual crd's be used on wafer cards.what do mean by an unprotected state? when i prog the pic and read it again, i get the same data as i loaded.(on the card as well as in the dil sockets)regarding the serial port, is it possible that there can be a problem, because i can prog the eeprom in the dil socket easily and read it as well? this is puzzling me .but i will surely try other cables as well as other computers.this is my great concern,because i know(?) i have the correct program on the pic and the correct data on the eeprom, but it won't work as aunit.another question, does the atr info sits in the pic or does it comes from the eeprom.i attached the wafer layouts&nbsp; that i have made!can't wait from hearing from you....thanx!!!</blockquote>

[QUOTE="boerboel, post: 7151, member: 175125"] thanx nobbly,i will try it this weekend. this is the my first attempts ever to program a wafer card, so could you please tell me the following: when i have data on the eeprom and a program in the pic, and i insert the wafer card into smartmouse, should i then see the correct atr? (when i open the eeprom.hex file with an eeprom editor i can see what the atr should be) can i treat the wafer card as a normal smartcard with normal irdeto software which shows the atr,ser no.,hex serial,prov id's,etc. with either a smartmouse, clanzers in srw ,or phoenix readers? (my clanzers have a 3.57 mhz xtal and s'mouse a 6mhz) with my most succes this far, i got an atr with all ff's in all fields, and no luck to use any crd's on it. can the usual crd's be used on wafer cards. what do mean by an unprotected state? when i prog the pic and read it again, i get the same data as i loaded.(on the card as well as in the dil sockets) regarding the serial port, is it possible that there can be a problem, because i can prog the eeprom in the dil socket easily and read it as well? this is puzzling me .but i will surely try other cables as well as other computers. this is my great concern,because i know(?) i have the correct program on the pic and the correct data on the eeprom, but it won't work as a unit. another question, does the atr info sits in the pic or does it comes from the eeprom. i attached the wafer layouts that i have made! can't wait from hearing from you....thanx!!! [/QUOTE]

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