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<blockquote data-quote="anton" data-source="post: 22769" data-attributes="member: 176045"><p>@Jim</p><p>Is this thread dead now?</p><p>The question was what else we could do?</p><p></p><p>I also wrote to G.Dyke- in my e-mail I literally spilled my heart expressing my sorrow at the loss of BBC TV </p><p>and generally just made it very personal just to see if there could be some sort of ‘human’ response. But I also raised several points about the economics behind their move and possible alternatives which could work out even better for them whilst keeping many more people happy....</p><p>After a few I got some sort of automated reply which proved the following:</p><p>-the mail never got to the man himself</p><p>- the person who replied on his behalf probably didn’t read it either</p><p>- not a single of my points was actually answered</p><p>BUT, interestingly for me, it openly admitted two things:</p><p>1) BBC openly admit they are aware that their signal can be received in several European countries and make no bones about it, quote:</p><p>‘The BBC will be using the Astra 2D satellite which has a more targeted footprint, allowing the BBC to limit broadcasting to the UK and SOME SURROUNDING COUNTRIES. ‘</p><p>2) as far as they are concerned they are not against anybody trying to pick their signal at any location </p><p>‘A local electrical retailer or installer, would be able to tell you if it is possible to receive a signal from the Astra 2D satellite at your location.‘‘ </p><p></p><p>Point 1 makes of course a big laugh of any possible debate about any ‘per territory sold‘ programme rights.</p><p>(just as I pointed out in my mail)</p><p>Point 2 is the ULTIMATE point for anybody concerned telling them to forget trying to raise any political/moral/whatever discussion on making BBC officially possible in the whole of Europe and concentrate</p><p>on taking things into their own hands</p><p>(although in my mail I stated how very much I would prefer giving my money to them rather than to just anybody selling expensive reception gear)</p><p></p><p>So what are the options left?</p><p>1. Forget about BBC and watch/listen to any crap there is available at your particular location</p><p>2. UK citizens simply go back home or as Pet Shop Boys say ‘’GO WEST (enough)’’</p><p>3. For other nations- also go west enough or even claim asylum in the UK on the grounds of your addiction to BBC and the impossibility of supporting your drug habbit from your current place.</p><p></p><p>But seriously and realistically now: the only option is trying to upgrade your gear at a reasonable cost and I see currently only two alternatives to spending a fortune on a massive dish:</p><p></p><p>1) For all people affected to somehow come together, e.g. on this forum and commision production of a tailormade dish (or slightly different sizes for people from roughly the same area)</p><p>I don’t know how cheaply such dish could be made, but the prices I have seen so far are surely huge and I suspect the cost could be brought down if some not too greedy producer could be found.</p><p></p><p>2) For me, the most interesting discussion at the moment seems to be going under the PHASED ARRAYS thread, and it seems there are some brains out there which can come up with alternative solutions but would need some support for their research (the idea is about using 2 or more smaller dishes rather than 1 huge one) For this, I for one would be inclined to make a donation specifically for this cause.</p><p></p><p>What do you think?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="anton, post: 22769, member: 176045"] @Jim Is this thread dead now? The question was what else we could do? I also wrote to G.Dyke- in my e-mail I literally spilled my heart expressing my sorrow at the loss of BBC TV and generally just made it very personal just to see if there could be some sort of ‘human’ response. But I also raised several points about the economics behind their move and possible alternatives which could work out even better for them whilst keeping many more people happy.... After a few I got some sort of automated reply which proved the following: -the mail never got to the man himself - the person who replied on his behalf probably didn’t read it either - not a single of my points was actually answered BUT, interestingly for me, it openly admitted two things: 1) BBC openly admit they are aware that their signal can be received in several European countries and make no bones about it, quote: ‘The BBC will be using the Astra 2D satellite which has a more targeted footprint, allowing the BBC to limit broadcasting to the UK and SOME SURROUNDING COUNTRIES. ‘ 2) as far as they are concerned they are not against anybody trying to pick their signal at any location ‘A local electrical retailer or installer, would be able to tell you if it is possible to receive a signal from the Astra 2D satellite at your location.‘‘ Point 1 makes of course a big laugh of any possible debate about any ‘per territory sold‘ programme rights. (just as I pointed out in my mail) Point 2 is the ULTIMATE point for anybody concerned telling them to forget trying to raise any political/moral/whatever discussion on making BBC officially possible in the whole of Europe and concentrate on taking things into their own hands (although in my mail I stated how very much I would prefer giving my money to them rather than to just anybody selling expensive reception gear) So what are the options left? 1. Forget about BBC and watch/listen to any crap there is available at your particular location 2. UK citizens simply go back home or as Pet Shop Boys say ‘’GO WEST (enough)’’ 3. For other nations- also go west enough or even claim asylum in the UK on the grounds of your addiction to BBC and the impossibility of supporting your drug habbit from your current place. But seriously and realistically now: the only option is trying to upgrade your gear at a reasonable cost and I see currently only two alternatives to spending a fortune on a massive dish: 1) For all people affected to somehow come together, e.g. on this forum and commision production of a tailormade dish (or slightly different sizes for people from roughly the same area) I don’t know how cheaply such dish could be made, but the prices I have seen so far are surely huge and I suspect the cost could be brought down if some not too greedy producer could be found. 2) For me, the most interesting discussion at the moment seems to be going under the PHASED ARRAYS thread, and it seems there are some brains out there which can come up with alternative solutions but would need some support for their research (the idea is about using 2 or more smaller dishes rather than 1 huge one) For this, I for one would be inclined to make a donation specifically for this cause. What do you think? [/QUOTE]
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