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<blockquote data-quote="spiney" data-source="post: 275906" data-attributes="member: 192438">Sigh ......Nothing can travel faster than light.Read that BBC article again, CAREFULLY!&quot;Apparent&quot; exceptions include:1) Waveguide phase velocity (however, nothing actually travels!).2) Cerenkov radiation (faster than light propogation speed in some substances).3) The Aspect Experiment (quantum coupling is instant, everywhere, but again, nothing &quot;travels&quot;!).It's not &quot;Spiney says so&quot;, I'm afraid, but a matter of logic, the actual concept involves self-contradiction, so becomes gibberish (just like time travel, free energy, perpetual motion, etc ......).&quot;Instant&quot; travel though wormholes is no exception, exactly the same problem is involved ......It would - in theory - be possible to reach anywhere in a Bussard Ramjet. Possibly, including the nearest stars within a single human lifetime (but time dilation would still apply, thousands of years would pass on earth!).I'm not insulting you, likvid, just saying what's what! Should I not give the answer, because it's not what we'd all &quot;prefer&quot; to be true?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="spiney, post: 275906, member: 192438"] Sigh ...... Nothing can travel faster than light. Read that BBC article again, CAREFULLY! "Apparent" exceptions include: 1) Waveguide phase velocity (however, nothing actually travels!). 2) Cerenkov radiation (faster than light propogation speed in some substances). 3) The Aspect Experiment (quantum coupling is instant, everywhere, but again, nothing "travels"!). It's not "Spiney says so", I'm afraid, but a matter of logic, the actual concept involves self-contradiction, so becomes gibberish (just like time travel, free energy, perpetual motion, etc ......). "Instant" travel though wormholes is no exception, exactly the same problem is involved ...... It would - in theory - be possible to reach anywhere in a Bussard Ramjet. Possibly, including the nearest stars within a single human lifetime (but time dilation would still apply, thousands of years would pass on earth!). I'm not insulting you, likvid, just saying what's what! Should I not give the answer, because it's not what we'd all "prefer" to be true? [/QUOTE]

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