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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Crisbe" data-source="post: 627021" data-attributes="member: 327196">I have just aquired a cas 3+ programmer and a couple of cams on ebay. I would be grateful for some help in trying to learn to use the cas 3 to program the cams etc.How do you test a cam using the cas 3+ ? The online guide doesn't exactly tell you that bit.  I tried the dragon 4.1 firecrypt cam in the cas 3 and got a message "no cam". Does that mean that there is a fault with the cam or that it needs software loading in to it? This may seem a dumb question but unless I ask I won't learn will I? I have downloaded and printed the cas 3 user manual and made sure I did everything the way the pictures said but, as I said, so I don't think it is a connection problem. The cam has a small sim card in the second slot. Should I remove that? Advice would be appreciated folks, be gentle with me i'm an old man!</blockquote>