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Message: <blockquote data-quote="elgin eagle" data-source="post: 34821" data-attributes="member: 177584">LOL yeah I was going to put it on a concrete slab in the back garden.  In the event I have settled on a twin LNB for my existing dish, giving me Astra 19E with hotbird.  I've had a magic cam programmed with MR software which has eliminated most of the break ups with the sound and picture, and so can now get the TPS films, XXL and RTL5 on Astra for the football.  I would have liked to get Top Channel on Eutelsat at 16E and it seems to show more live games, but the guy said it was hard to get a twin LNB to pick up both satellites with just a 3 degree difference.plus me neighbours will stay happy <img src="https://www.satellites.co.uk/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/smile.png"  class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)" data-shortname=":)" /></blockquote>