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Message: <blockquote data-quote="elgin eagle" data-source="post: 35922" data-attributes="member: 177584"><img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite8" alt=":D" title="Big Grin    :D" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":D" /> Its become like a battle to get it! I can't get 5'E cos the walls in the way, I can't get 16'E with the twinLNB cos its only a 3 degree difference from hotbird, and thats too small, and I can't pick up any other satellites that show any cos the second is too small at 60cm.  What a nightmare.Looking on the LJ's football page, there are 2 west-facing satellites that show FTA football, 1 at 1'w, and one at 4'W. Do you think I might be able to pick either of them up with the other 60cm dish?</blockquote>