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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Ratchet" data-source="post: 536322" data-attributes="member: 197614">Thanks, that's good to know. I only just get these channels with no margin for rain fade. Can I bother you to clarify something else for me, do you get the MBC channels off Badr 4 11919 H 27500 3/4 ? I don't see these in your list and wouldn't want to lose them if I went for the Penta.I have a couple of questions about the dish itself....1. I assume the unusual shape has an effect on efficiency, does it lose gain on a motorised system when it is at the extremes of the arc. My concern is that as the dish will be skewed off square will it lose any efficiency. After all it is that shape for a reason !2. Is it worth getting the aluminium version over the steel one ?</blockquote>