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<blockquote data-quote="Dggrr" data-source="post: 1146687" data-attributes="member: 238167">This thread prompted me to checkout my Fransat cards.I currently have 2 Fransat PC6 cards:1.&nbsp; Pre 4-year life restriction - the rolling Fransat authorisation had expired in March, doesn't seem to want to come back to life in Oscam or in a Neotion/Fransat CAM in an OpenATV VU+ Zero 4K (my only reciever that takes a CAM)2. A 4-year life card that also expired in March.&nbsp; Has an ETB authorisation which renews annually and is still valid and working. presumably until the current 12 months runs out.Some other observations:- in the Neotion CAM the &quot;pay for&quot; Bis channels work for a few seconds (~5) and then degrade to badly broken picture- In an original HD Fransat HD box, the Bis channels are fine but the TNT channels are not authorised- The TF Sports 4K channel works with both PC6 cardsThe Neotion CAM wants to update but the update failed (&quot;échoué&quot;) in my VU+ Zero.I'm leaving my PC6 card in the Fansat HD box to see if it comes to life.I've ordered a PC7 from France through Ebay, as was not very expensive.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Dggrr, post: 1146687, member: 238167"] This thread prompted me to checkout my Fransat cards. I currently have 2 Fransat PC6 cards: 1. Pre 4-year life restriction - the rolling Fransat authorisation had expired in March, doesn't seem to want to come back to life in Oscam or in a Neotion/Fransat CAM in an OpenATV VU+ Zero 4K (my only reciever that takes a CAM) 2. A 4-year life card that also expired in March. Has an ETB authorisation which renews annually and is still valid and working. presumably until the current 12 months runs out. Some other observations: - in the Neotion CAM the "pay for" Bis channels work for a few seconds (~5) and then degrade to badly broken picture - In an original HD Fransat HD box, the Bis channels are fine but the TNT channels are not authorised - The TF Sports 4K channel works with both PC6 cards The Neotion CAM wants to update but the update failed ("échoué") in my VU+ Zero. I'm leaving my PC6 card in the Fansat HD box to see if it comes to life. I've ordered a PC7 from France through Ebay, as was not very expensive. [/QUOTE]

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