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Message: <blockquote data-quote="satoons" data-source="post: 14128" data-attributes="member: 175417">Hi Dave,My Manhattan 5800 is not patched.I have a Aston 1.05 Cam with gold card for astra and a Viaccess Cam with gold card for Hotbird.I can't receive any of these channels on either sattelites.I programmed a fun card for a friend and I know that he can receive these channels.The question is:Is it worth patching my receiver?i mean eventually they will go seca2 and even if I did that means that the cams would be no good to me. (£180.00 down the drain)Any Ideas?Thanks for the infosatoons</blockquote>