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<blockquote data-quote="spiney" data-source="post: 234241" data-attributes="member: 192438">some interesting stuff here ....1) How about electric lingerie ?2) Was Tom Crapper a real person ?<a href="http://www.theplumber.com/crapper.html" target="_blank">www.theplumber.com/crapper.html</a><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Crapper" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Crapper</a>3) During the Soviet years, Russia was constantly playing &quot;cold war catchup&quot;, but is it true to say they invented their inventors?<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Missile_gap" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Missile_gap</a><a href="http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/cold.war/episodes/12/interviews/mcnamara/" target="_blank">http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/cold.war/episodes/12/interviews/mcnamara/</a><a href="http://inventors.about.com/od/russianinventors/" target="_blank">http://inventors.about.com/od/russianinventors/</a> <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Russian_inventors" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Russian_inventors</a>(For example, there's no doubt at all that Tsiolkovski wa the first person to &quot;invent&quot; spaceflight, with Goddard, Von Braun, Oberth, Ley, - not to mention Arthur Clarke - etc, all heavily indebted to him. And, Russia also had Korolev, for a long time known only as the &quot;chief designer&quot;:<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sergey_Korolev" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sergey_Korolev</a>).(((I know we're not supposed to discuss politics, so this last one is maybe getting off-topic, but I believe cold war stuff has become a matter of historical record, and is not current politics!))).</blockquote>

[QUOTE="spiney, post: 234241, member: 192438"] some interesting stuff here .... 1) How about electric lingerie ? 2) Was Tom Crapper a real person ? [url]www.theplumber.com/crapper.html[/url] [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Crapper[/url] 3) During the Soviet years, Russia was constantly playing "cold war catchup", but is it true to say they invented their inventors? [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Missile_gap[/url] [url]http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/cold.war/episodes/12/interviews/mcnamara/[/url] [url]http://inventors.about.com/od/russianinventors/[/url] [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Russian_inventors[/url] (For example, there's no doubt at all that Tsiolkovski wa the first person to "invent" spaceflight, with Goddard, Von Braun, Oberth, Ley, - not to mention Arthur Clarke - etc, all heavily indebted to him. And, Russia also had Korolev, for a long time known only as the "chief designer": [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sergey_Korolev[/url]). (((I know we're not supposed to discuss politics, so this last one is maybe getting off-topic, but I believe cold war stuff has become a matter of historical record, and is not current politics!))). [/QUOTE]

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