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<blockquote data-quote="2old4this" data-source="post: 5955" data-attributes="member: 174998">An 8db LNB would be next to useless! I assume you mean 0.8db. Note that this is slightly worse than the usual standard 0.7db these days. In fact, 0.3db LNBs are available (at a high price) if you really want to squeeze every last bit of signal out of your dish.The Humax 5400 patch is a modified version of the firmware which you load into the receiver in order to make the embedded Irdeto CAM behave like an ALLCAM (ie to allow it to receive not just pure Irdeto signals but also the German Betacrypt variant as used by ATV &amp; Premiere-World).I note your two options don't cover the same encryption systems. This means you are comparing apples with pears. You should decide which encryption systems you are interested in and choose the receiver (plus supplementary CAMs) accordingly. Shame to pay for the embedded Irdeto CAM in the Humax5400 if you don't need it. And if you DO need it, your option-2 obviosuly is no good. Similarly Seca &amp; Viaccess. If you went for option-1, did you intend to buy those as separate CAMs? That can really hike up the price - although separate CI CAMs are a much safer bet if you were intending to use pirate cards (they are less vulnerable to the defensive measures providers are increasingly taking these days against piracy)2old</blockquote>

[QUOTE="2old4this, post: 5955, member: 174998"] An 8db LNB would be next to useless! I assume you mean 0.8db. Note that this is slightly worse than the usual standard 0.7db these days. In fact, 0.3db LNBs are available (at a high price) if you really want to squeeze every last bit of signal out of your dish. The Humax 5400 patch is a modified version of the firmware which you load into the receiver in order to make the embedded Irdeto CAM behave like an ALLCAM (ie to allow it to receive not just pure Irdeto signals but also the German Betacrypt variant as used by ATV & Premiere-World). I note your two options don't cover the same encryption systems. This means you are comparing apples with pears. You should decide which encryption systems you are interested in and choose the receiver (plus supplementary CAMs) accordingly. Shame to pay for the embedded Irdeto CAM in the Humax5400 if you don't need it. And if you DO need it, your option-2 obviosuly is no good. Similarly Seca & Viaccess. If you went for option-1, did you intend to buy those as separate CAMs? That can really hike up the price - although separate CI CAMs are a much safer bet if you were intending to use pirate cards (they are less vulnerable to the defensive measures providers are increasingly taking these days against piracy) 2old [/QUOTE]

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