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Message: <blockquote data-quote="glesgaguysat" data-source="post: 253574" data-attributes="member: 235838">Yes I totally agree, the manual and GUI are less than perfect, I am new to sat TV and it can be a big, if enjoyable learning curve, I only got my system because I refuse to pay S*y for the privilage of watching anything in HD, now I have my sat system I have a choice, free, if I can put up with the continual key searches that enable me to watch them, it's a bit like the masons "an open secret" if you know where to look!:-bash I managed to upgrade my box with no problem and have found that if it does act strangely the best thing to do is turn it off at the back.<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite69" alt=":-ohmy" title="Oh My    :-ohmy" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":-ohmy" /></blockquote>