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<blockquote data-quote="Dustbinlid" data-source="post: 610557" data-attributes="member: 323635">Ok, well theres still something of a learning curve that I have to address whatever I decide to do.Now firstly, in reference to the whole approach, many people look upon these actions as shall we say 'lacking integritty' and people choose not to get involved. (however a point which I still cant get my head around is what the whole culture of 'sat hobbying' is all about if it isnt getting something for nothing. Why are there so many 'independent' systems etc when if you want a channel then you can go to the official supplier of that channel and they will make sure you can get it?) The belief that the likes of me are trying to get an advantage over others is simply incorrect. I have been on the wrong side of a time delay for 6-7 years and would love an equal playing field. The likes of me are not in it for the advantage but to negate the disadvantage, they are 2 very different things.Yes buying SIS is and option (but TurfTv not so as im not a bookies) , however what you are forgetting is the fact that RAW SIS users and code breakers DO exist and these people are negating the issue of purchasing the correct license as pointless.Now a quirey...is it a correct assumption to suggest that the 'end product' (the delivery point satallite for the likes of SIS to its' paying public) remains the same as the dish seems fixed pointing at one point. That would indicate that any pictures that are found elsewhere are likely to be the encrypted or otherwise, raw version and therefore with less delay?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Dustbinlid, post: 610557, member: 323635"] Ok, well theres still something of a learning curve that I have to address whatever I decide to do. Now firstly, in reference to the whole approach, many people look upon these actions as shall we say 'lacking integritty' and people choose not to get involved. (however a point which I still cant get my head around is what the whole culture of 'sat hobbying' is all about if it isnt getting something for nothing. Why are there so many 'independent' systems etc when if you want a channel then you can go to the official supplier of that channel and they will make sure you can get it?) The belief that the likes of me are trying to get an advantage over others is simply incorrect. I have been on the wrong side of a time delay for 6-7 years and would love an equal playing field. The likes of me are not in it for the advantage but to negate the disadvantage, they are 2 very different things. Yes buying SIS is and option (but TurfTv not so as im not a bookies) , however what you are forgetting is the fact that RAW SIS users and code breakers DO exist and these people are negating the issue of purchasing the correct license as pointless. Now a quirey...is it a correct assumption to suggest that the 'end product' (the delivery point satallite for the likes of SIS to its' paying public) remains the same as the dish seems fixed pointing at one point. That would indicate that any pictures that are found elsewhere are likely to be the encrypted or otherwise, raw version and therefore with less delay? [/QUOTE]

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