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<blockquote data-quote="2old4this" data-source="post: 2420" data-attributes="member: 174998">I think all that blood's gone to your head, my friend :9 In any event, extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof. With respect, you are the thousandth person to claim to have seen something or other which hacks Sky - and yet not one shred of evidence has actually ever materialised. Where did you see it? Do you have links to any related info? Schematics? Etc etc.And can you be sure that what you were witnessing was Sky Digital? Just before Sky analogue went off air, the videocrypt system (latest incarnation) was fully compromised by the &quot;no-operation&quot; group using a so-called &quot;heuristic&quot; technique similar to that you describe (i.e. PC analysis of the video signal rather than any direct attack on the key encryption algorithms). I posted on that in this board a few months ago.Presumably that technique could be extended to other systems too, but I've not yet heard of that happening.On the RS232 question: if you have actually seen this with your own eyes, why don't you ask the person running it what the pin-layout of the RS232 is? Presumably s/he knows all the details.Looking forward to hearing more on this,2old</blockquote>

[QUOTE="2old4this, post: 2420, member: 174998"] I think all that blood's gone to your head, my friend :9 In any event, extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof. With respect, you are the thousandth person to claim to have seen something or other which hacks Sky - and yet not one shred of evidence has actually ever materialised. Where did you see it? Do you have links to any related info? Schematics? Etc etc. And can you be sure that what you were witnessing was Sky Digital? Just before Sky analogue went off air, the videocrypt system (latest incarnation) was fully compromised by the "no-operation" group using a so-called "heuristic" technique similar to that you describe (i.e. PC analysis of the video signal rather than any direct attack on the key encryption algorithms). I posted on that in this board a few months ago. Presumably that technique could be extended to other systems too, but I've not yet heard of that happening. On the RS232 question: if you have actually seen this with your own eyes, why don't you ask the person running it what the pin-layout of the RS232 is? Presumably s/he knows all the details. Looking forward to hearing more on this, 2old [/QUOTE]

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