New Inverto KaKu lnb

[Trust]

Found at a German board , member Delfi got his hand on a Inverto Ka /Ku combi lnb
Switchable between 10,7-12,75 GHz, and 21,2-22,2 GHz.
This lnb already listed in a Inverto cataloque from 2013 with no specs .
Delfi tested it against a XMW PLL at 16º E , found the same TP's with 1 dB more power .
Unfortunaly , its not on the marked yet .

 

[Vipersan]

Very interesting indeed...
On my shopping list if it ever becomes available ..
curious though ..
??
Polarity wise ...
obviously it can switch between the 2 bands ...
How is this done since 22khz is needed for band switching in Ku ..
Which leaves V/H available ...but if this is used for polarity switching in Ku ..then how is the switch from Ku to Ka accomplished ?
Or is it simgle polrity only ?
H or V depending on physical orientation ..
ie H Ka and H Ku ...22khz upper Ku
or rotated through 90 degrees
V Ka and V Ku 22khz upper Ku
more info please...

 

[Archived-1]

?.
http://www.eutelsat.com/files/contributed/news/media_library/brochures/Fiche_Smart_LNB.pdf

 

[hvdh]

I guess the Ka/Ku output will output Ku by default, and can be switched to Ka by a DiSEqC 1.0 command just like ordinary monoblocks?
And all existing sats with 21.4...22.0 GHz use linear, thus Ka and Ku will be linear.

Edit: corrected!

 

[Vipersan]

I guess the Ka/Ku output will output Ku by default, and can be switched to Ka by a DiSEqC 1.0 command just like ordinary monoblocks?
And all existing sats with 21.4...22.0 GHz use circular, thus Ka will be circular, Ku linear.

That has me confused buddy ...
Ka D uses linear not circular ??
..and of course ..a diseqc 1.0 command might be confusing for switched setups with motor control ..
This wouldn't be an issue of course on a static dish..
Just curious how it works for real tho'
rgds
VS

 

[hvdh]

Sorry I was confused, indeed Ka D is always linear!

 

[Archived-1]

If the link ive posted is about the same LNB, maybe the continuous streams or something to do with this ? just a thought ?

 

[Vipersan]

If the link ive posted is about the same LNB, maybe the continuous streams or something to do with this ? just a thought ?

You may well be right Martin ...but damned if I can navigate to a pdf for this lnb ..
Just keep finding the same link you posted ..
If it's on invertos website ..it's well hidden.
rgds

 

[Archived-1]

Well a quick google is pulling stuff up, trying to find the demo atm.
http://www.v-net.tv/eutelsat-provides-first-live-demo-of-smart-lnb

 

[Vipersan]

This is all I can find ...
Not much to go on that we dont already know about it ..
http://www.inverto.tv/guide/flipbook_en/files/assets/basic-html/page62.html

 

[Trust]

and this

 

[Vipersan]

Still doesnt say much about the IDLK-SINL20-KAKUO-OPP
The info is refering to the Twin Ka circular used at 9E
So ...we are no wiser..

 

[Trust]

The picture of the KaKu in that 2013 cataloque is unpunctually , thats a sign .
The single one in the middle is also not available since the project for Egypt did not start .

 

[Channel Hopper]

Could it be one of those 'smart' Ku downlink/Ka uplink LNBs ?

www.eutelsat.com/files/contributed/news/media.../Fiche_Smart_LNB.pdf

 

[Archived-1]

?.
http://www.eutelsat.com/files/contributed/news/media_library/brochures/Fiche_Smart_LNB.pdf

Well a quick google is pulling stuff up, trying to find the demo atm.
http://www.v-net.tv/eutelsat-provides-first-live-demo-of-smart-lnb

Could it be one of those 'smart' Ku downlink/Ka uplink LNBs ?

www.eutelsat.com/files/contributed/news/media.../Fiche_Smart_LNB.pdf

We think so CH .

 

[Vipersan]

Could it be one of those 'smart' Ku downlink/Ka uplink LNBs ?

www.eutelsat.com/files/contributed/news/media.../Fiche_Smart_LNB.pdf

Cant see it being a Ka uplink lnb like an Hughes ODU ...
But I guess it could monitor certain uplink frequencies ...like those it already found on 16E.
But why would anyone make one Ka D capable unless ..this was indeed the future of spectrum use in satellite..
rgds
VS

 

[Trust]

Could it be one of those 'smart' Ku downlink/Ka uplink LNBs ?

www.eutelsat.com/files/contributed/news/media.../Fiche_Smart_LNB.pdf

CH did you not read : Delfi tested it against a XMW PLL at 16º E , found the same TP's with 1 dB more power .
That was on Ka band .
He posted some more today , translated for you :

with DiSEqC 1.0 A is Ku, with B Ka.

At the Ka only port extremly good signal , found this morning 11 TP's , one more as with the PLL lnb .
Nine of them between > 10 and 15 dB . With the PLL lnb only about 5 / 6 TP's > 10dB

At the other port , switchable Ka / Ku , some losses at KA ( about 0.7 dB ) but still equal to the PLL lnb .

The KU part seems to be a little less than the BU ( 0.5 / 1.0 dB ) but maybe the cloudy wetter has something to do with that .

Tested at TBS 5925 card
Also wrote : there have been already 6500 pcs made .

 

[Vipersan]

CH did you not read : Delfi tested it against a XMW PLL at 16º E , found the same TP's with 1 dB more power .
That was on Ka band .
He posted some more today , translated for you :

with DiSEqC 1.0 A is Ku, with B Ka.

At the Ka only port extremly good signal , found this morning 11 TP's , one more as with the PLL lnb .
Nine of them between > 10 and 15 dB . With the PLL lnb only about 5 / 6 TP's > 10dB

At the other port , switchable Ka / Ku , some losses at KA ( about 0.7 dB ) but still equal to the PLL lnb .

The KU part seems to be a little less than the BU ( 0.5 / 1.0 dB ) but maybe the cloudy wetter has something to do with that .

Tested at TBS 5925 card
Also wrote : there have been already 6500 pcs made .

So ..any idea when they will be available to mere mortals such as myself ??
..and roughly the cost ?
Delfi is obviously 'in the loop' at inverto ..
perhaps he could find out ?

 

[Archive-8]

There may be a few interested in this

 

[scopus]

Yep, I'd be interested in one