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Message: <blockquote data-quote="joddle" data-source="post: 631051" data-attributes="member: 247983"><p>Another problem is that the so called freesat card from Sky is not very good value for money as it was before as more channels can be received using a freesat box ie are not encrypted. The "extras" supplied from the sky card are pretty limited and for many people not really worth having - the exceptions used to be Ch4 and Ch5 but now both of these are freely available. I can see that many people won't bother renewing their sky freesat cards next time they do a card swap which may please Sky as they lose money on it and anyway if you are content with the basic channels then at least you will get a handful of HD channels as well by usng a freesat box!</p></blockquote><p></p>