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<blockquote data-quote="JasX" data-source="post: 687456" data-attributes="member: 349803"><p>Hey all,</p><p></p><p><span style="color: Blue"><em><Sorry if this is in the wrong place, seems to cover a few areas></em></span></p><p></p><p>After 2 years of badgering a group of us (residents) has finally persuaded our managing agent to let us have a sky/satellite system installed in our block so we can hook up for sky or freesat... local sky installer has been round and quoted us a couple of options.</p><p></p><p>Typically the block was only built in 2005 but for some reason it never occured to the builder to pre-wire anything for satellite <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite21" alt=":-ohcrap" title="Oh Crap :-ohcrap" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":-ohcrap" /></p><p></p><p>Anyway here's what the local 'sky approved' installer is proposing:</p><p></p><p>New Dish on roof</p><p><-----(new cable 8m)-----></p><p>New multiswitch</p><p><-----(new cable 12m straight run)-----></p><p>joint</p><p><-------(existing RG6 cable into wrong side of living room)------></p><p>joint</p><p><------(new cable around room to TV point)------></p><p></p><p>Block is 4 stories high, 16 individual apartments, 4 on each floor.</p><p></p><p>For the <strong>Multiswitch </strong>they've offered a few options</p><p>-all use 'Vision' hardware, <span style="color: Blue"><em>are they a reliable brand?</em></span></p><p></p><p>-one involves 4 passive 8-way V4-806G switches daisy chained to provide 32 feeds.</p><p></p><p>_http://www.vision-products.co.uk/assets/products/datasheets/V4-812L.pdf</p><p></p><p>_http://www.vision-products.co.uk/ass...ts/V4-812L.pdf</p><p></p><p>-the other involves a single 32-way multiswitch V5-532 think they're offering the unpowered one but as mains is readily available <em><span style="color: Blue">would we be better off insisting on the V5-532MP powered version?</span></em></p><p></p><p>_www.vision-products.co.uk/assets/products/datasheets/V5-532.pdf</p><p></p><p>_http://www.vision-products.co.uk/ass...ets/V5-532.pdf</p><p></p><p></p><p>_http://www.vision-products.co.uk/assets/products/datasheets/V5-532MP.pdf</p><p></p><p>_http://www.vision-products.co.uk/ass...s/V5-532MP.pdf</p><p></p><p>I'm leaning quite strongly towards the single unit powered one?[/COLOR][/I] </p><p></p><p><em><span style="color: Blue">also I don't quite understand how IRS is delivered, if TV ans atellite (and radio) go into the multiswitch do they all get piped down the same single coax run to each end use point? if so what kind of device is needed to separate them out (built into the back of the faceplate)? or does each feed need a separate cable?</span></em></p><p></p><p><strong>Cabling</strong> its being fitted by an approved sky contractor, <em><span style="color: Blue">would we be ok to trust them to install decent quality cable? </span><span style="color: Blue">would we possibly be better long term buying a few drums of decent quality PF100 and free issuing it to them just to be on the safe side?</span></em></p><p></p><p>Found I could pickup this locally, was mentioned in another post on here, <em><span style="color: Blue">unless there are any better suggestions?</span></em> (claims 80 strans coppeer on foil, losses seem slightly higher than WF100 by about 1Db would that be noticable?)</p><p></p><p>_http://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Products/CAPF100W.html"]White Foam Filled Digital Satellite & Aerial Cable</p><p></p><p><strong>Dish,</strong> we're in south london and they're proposing an "80cm dish", <span style="color: Blue"><em>any questions its worth asking beyond that about it?</em></span> there are a fair few tall buildings to the south within 60-100m (city centre location so they're big reflective things covered in glass) i guess we'll have to suck it and see there....</p><p></p><p>The number of downstream joints is a bit unfortunate but the RG6 (single feed) is the only thing that was pre-wired into each flats living room, <span style="color: Blue"><em>i'm hoping it'll be ok for basic sky and perhaps some HD? </em></span> making 32 sockets available at the switch leaves things open for the awkward work pulling in extra cable in future (DIY job).</p><p></p><p>The sky installer has ideas we'll be able to get Sky+ either using a stacker/destacker device on the downstream 'multijoint' cable.</p><p></p><p>they also suggested we could use the existing TV coax feed to carry the necessary second feed in (12m, air spaced dielectric, no foil, very few copper strands).</p><p></p><p><em><span style="color: Blue">Personally reading around this forum I'm not convinced of either of these last 2 options but would appreciate any experience anyone else has?</span></em></p><p></p><p><em><span style="color: Blue">Installer is also proposing installing faceplates but i've read elsewhere they're generally discouraged as another source of loss? </span></em></p><p></p><p>Any comments much appreciated, I'm the one caught liasing between the other residents/landlord/installer and don;t want to end up hugely unpopular if we end up with something horrible that doesn't work at all. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite9" alt=":eek:" title="Eek! :eek:" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":eek:" /></p><p></p><p><strong><span style="color: blue">[Moderation] Unparsed 5 URL's</span></strong></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="JasX, post: 687456, member: 349803"] Hey all, [COLOR=Blue][I]<Sorry if this is in the wrong place, seems to cover a few areas>[/I][/COLOR] After 2 years of badgering a group of us (residents) has finally persuaded our managing agent to let us have a sky/satellite system installed in our block so we can hook up for sky or freesat... local sky installer has been round and quoted us a couple of options. Typically the block was only built in 2005 but for some reason it never occured to the builder to pre-wire anything for satellite :-ohcrap Anyway here's what the local 'sky approved' installer is proposing: New Dish on roof <-----(new cable 8m)-----> New multiswitch <-----(new cable 12m straight run)-----> joint <-------(existing RG6 cable into wrong side of living room)------> joint <------(new cable around room to TV point)------> Block is 4 stories high, 16 individual apartments, 4 on each floor. For the [B]Multiswitch [/B]they've offered a few options -all use 'Vision' hardware, [COLOR=Blue][I]are they a reliable brand?[/I][/COLOR] -one involves 4 passive 8-way V4-806G switches daisy chained to provide 32 feeds. _http://www.vision-products.co.uk/assets/products/datasheets/V4-812L.pdf _http://www.vision-products.co.uk/ass...ts/V4-812L.pdf -the other involves a single 32-way multiswitch V5-532 think they're offering the unpowered one but as mains is readily available [I][COLOR=Blue]would we be better off insisting on the V5-532MP powered version?[/COLOR][/I] _www.vision-products.co.uk/assets/products/datasheets/V5-532.pdf _http://www.vision-products.co.uk/ass...ets/V5-532.pdf _http://www.vision-products.co.uk/assets/products/datasheets/V5-532MP.pdf _http://www.vision-products.co.uk/ass...s/V5-532MP.pdf I'm leaning quite strongly towards the single unit powered one?[/COLOR][/I] [I][COLOR=Blue]also I don't quite understand how IRS is delivered, if TV ans atellite (and radio) go into the multiswitch do they all get piped down the same single coax run to each end use point? if so what kind of device is needed to separate them out (built into the back of the faceplate)? or does each feed need a separate cable?[/COLOR][/I] [B]Cabling[/B] its being fitted by an approved sky contractor, [I][COLOR=Blue]would we be ok to trust them to install decent quality cable? [/COLOR][COLOR=Blue]would we possibly be better long term buying a few drums of decent quality PF100 and free issuing it to them just to be on the safe side?[/COLOR][/I] Found I could pickup this locally, was mentioned in another post on here, [I][COLOR=Blue]unless there are any better suggestions?[/COLOR][/I] (claims 80 strans coppeer on foil, losses seem slightly higher than WF100 by about 1Db would that be noticable?) _http://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Products/CAPF100W.html"]White Foam Filled Digital Satellite & Aerial Cable [B]Dish,[/B] we're in south london and they're proposing an "80cm dish", [COLOR=Blue][I]any questions its worth asking beyond that about it?[/I][/COLOR] there are a fair few tall buildings to the south within 60-100m (city centre location so they're big reflective things covered in glass) i guess we'll have to suck it and see there.... The number of downstream joints is a bit unfortunate but the RG6 (single feed) is the only thing that was pre-wired into each flats living room, [COLOR=Blue][I]i'm hoping it'll be ok for basic sky and perhaps some HD? [/I][/COLOR] making 32 sockets available at the switch leaves things open for the awkward work pulling in extra cable in future (DIY job). The sky installer has ideas we'll be able to get Sky+ either using a stacker/destacker device on the downstream 'multijoint' cable. they also suggested we could use the existing TV coax feed to carry the necessary second feed in (12m, air spaced dielectric, no foil, very few copper strands). [I][COLOR=Blue]Personally reading around this forum I'm not convinced of either of these last 2 options but would appreciate any experience anyone else has?[/COLOR][/I] [I][COLOR=Blue]Installer is also proposing installing faceplates but i've read elsewhere they're generally discouraged as another source of loss? [/COLOR][/I] Any comments much appreciated, I'm the one caught liasing between the other residents/landlord/installer and don;t want to end up hugely unpopular if we end up with something horrible that doesn't work at all. :eek: [B][COLOR="blue"][Moderation] Unparsed 5 URL's[/COLOR][/B] [/QUOTE]
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