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<blockquote data-quote="2old4this" data-source="post: 22485" data-attributes="member: 174998"><p>The cards with more memory are able to hold keys for more providers. the cards with faster chipsets are able to decrypt keys quicker, leading to fewer problems while zapping. Some cards have pre-loaded operating systems that are optimised for particular decryptions (eg DES). Some cards are better quality than others (whole rafts of cheap white goldcards were once produced that melted in the CAM when used for a few days!) </p><p></p><p>The cards with such higher spec are (a) more expensive to manufacture and (<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite6" alt=":cool:" title="Cool :cool:" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":cool:" /> more in demand. Therefore (market economics) they are more expensive. The original goldcard has by now been produced in such vast numbers that the thing is pretty much a give-away item. More specialised cards like the M2 and Basic-card have never been produced in those numbers and are typically twenty to forty times as expensive. </p><p></p><p>Some examples of 'other things'you can do with cards include:</p><p>- program your own application using specialised developers' toolkits (eg for the Basic card). Remember these cards are NOT satellite hacking cards. They are general purpose smart cards that do whatever you tell them to do.</p><p>- act as a key-logger (insert in receiver and it gathers keys as they are transmitted ove the air - much as a season interface and PC-programme would normally be used to do)</p><p>- higher-spec cards allow more providers, as mentioined, but aslo functionality such as update of keys via the remote controkl (usually hijacking the receivers' parental-lock feature). And auto-update of keys. </p><p></p><p>However, what is "high-spec"? The original single-PIC cards (which were mainly used for D2MAC) don't allow any such fancy features, but a standard low-end funcard these days does do quite happily. </p><p></p><p>If you have a look at the old "what's what" thread in the CAMs forum, you'll find your CAM type listed. That tells you whether you'll be able to reprogram it easily or not.</p><p></p><p><a href="http://www.satellites.co.uk/php-bin/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1674" target="_blank">http://www.satellites.co.uk/php-bin/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1674</a></p><p></p><p>In fact, you can see that yours is a "Euro" CAM and not flashable without removing the eeprom (and programming it using a special TSOP adapter).</p><p></p><p>In general, your particular CAM will NOT give access to multiple encryption systems, only Irdeto. If you had had the older series-1 Irdeto CAM, you could have reflashed it to become a so-called FreeCAM2, which DOES.</p><p>However, there are some receivers which either in their original state or else by replacing the firmware by a tweaked version WILL allow a multi-encryption card to work in your unmodified Irdeto Euro CAM. One such example is the Echostar "Echonav" receivers (dvr7000, ad3600 etc.). Another example is the Samsung dsr9500. You see, this is all rather complicated. Whether you can decrypt zero, one or more systems is dependent on the interplay between receiver, receiver's firmware, CAM, CAM's firmware, card and the card's loaded software & keys.</p><p></p><p>A Magic CAM (or one of the many variants) will work in all CI receivers, so it's perhaps worth investing in one of them anyway if you want to explore this hobby. </p><p></p><p>I would recommend a steerable system, since there's still a lot of good stuff (films, sport etc) up for grabs on the Scandanavian and Hispanic satelites. And if you do get into the hobby, you can guarantee that within no time you'll be frustrated by only having fixed-dish access to a couple of satellites. </p><p></p><p>2old</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="2old4this, post: 22485, member: 174998"] The cards with more memory are able to hold keys for more providers. the cards with faster chipsets are able to decrypt keys quicker, leading to fewer problems while zapping. Some cards have pre-loaded operating systems that are optimised for particular decryptions (eg DES). Some cards are better quality than others (whole rafts of cheap white goldcards were once produced that melted in the CAM when used for a few days!) The cards with such higher spec are (a) more expensive to manufacture and (B) more in demand. Therefore (market economics) they are more expensive. The original goldcard has by now been produced in such vast numbers that the thing is pretty much a give-away item. More specialised cards like the M2 and Basic-card have never been produced in those numbers and are typically twenty to forty times as expensive. Some examples of 'other things'you can do with cards include: - program your own application using specialised developers' toolkits (eg for the Basic card). Remember these cards are NOT satellite hacking cards. They are general purpose smart cards that do whatever you tell them to do. - act as a key-logger (insert in receiver and it gathers keys as they are transmitted ove the air - much as a season interface and PC-programme would normally be used to do) - higher-spec cards allow more providers, as mentioined, but aslo functionality such as update of keys via the remote controkl (usually hijacking the receivers' parental-lock feature). And auto-update of keys. However, what is "high-spec"? The original single-PIC cards (which were mainly used for D2MAC) don't allow any such fancy features, but a standard low-end funcard these days does do quite happily. If you have a look at the old "what's what" thread in the CAMs forum, you'll find your CAM type listed. That tells you whether you'll be able to reprogram it easily or not. [url]http://www.satellites.co.uk/php-bin/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1674[/url] In fact, you can see that yours is a "Euro" CAM and not flashable without removing the eeprom (and programming it using a special TSOP adapter). In general, your particular CAM will NOT give access to multiple encryption systems, only Irdeto. If you had had the older series-1 Irdeto CAM, you could have reflashed it to become a so-called FreeCAM2, which DOES. However, there are some receivers which either in their original state or else by replacing the firmware by a tweaked version WILL allow a multi-encryption card to work in your unmodified Irdeto Euro CAM. One such example is the Echostar "Echonav" receivers (dvr7000, ad3600 etc.). Another example is the Samsung dsr9500. You see, this is all rather complicated. Whether you can decrypt zero, one or more systems is dependent on the interplay between receiver, receiver's firmware, CAM, CAM's firmware, card and the card's loaded software & keys. A Magic CAM (or one of the many variants) will work in all CI receivers, so it's perhaps worth investing in one of them anyway if you want to explore this hobby. I would recommend a steerable system, since there's still a lot of good stuff (films, sport etc) up for grabs on the Scandanavian and Hispanic satelites. And if you do get into the hobby, you can guarantee that within no time you'll be frustrated by only having fixed-dish access to a couple of satellites. 2old [/QUOTE]
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