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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Nalleman" data-source="post: 1163063" data-attributes="member: 285245">Will try my SF8008 which has a much less sensitive tuner than the VU+ DUO 4K SE tomorrow.With the Octagon I can't get 11053 H 24/7. With the VU+ I get it unless it rains heavily.As for 12382 H I can simply use the percentage shown in the VU+ DUO2/DUO 4K SE.On the DUO 2 when DVB-S 5/6 the picture started to break up at around 42 %.The value now is 46 % (was 48 % when I wrote my previous post) on the DUO2 due to rain and the picture is stable.On the 4K SE when DVB-S 5/6 the picture started to break up at 38 %. When DVB-S2 8PSK and FEC 2/3 the break up starts at 42 % (has seen this on 12168 V, 12226 H and 12363 V).A difference of only 4 percent can't be equivalent to 1,5 dB.</blockquote>