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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Analoguesat" data-source="post: 644892" data-attributes="member: 176362">C5 UK is both fta & ftv!  <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite13" alt=":-rofl2" title="roll on floor    :-rofl2" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":-rofl2" />There are 4 C5 sub regions. One is mapped to the Astra 2D fta version. The other three are mapped to the ftv widebeam versions.Therfore in Italy if you have a Region 2 card which covers:most of England south of Manchester EXCEPT London,Wales Northern Ireland you have a problem as you  are mapped to the difficult Astra 2D version</blockquote>