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Message: <blockquote data-quote="johnc86" data-source="post: 582032" data-attributes="member: 266513">I though they where the nexus was the same card I stand corrected.It was on ebay but it seems to have been sold or removed. It was about £20 i think, cant remember if that was buy it now or just where it was up to as an auction. Perhaps I will get a skystar 2 after all.So does the skystar 2 not have a tv out then? I suppose for unofficial purposes you dont need the cam do you as it would ude softcams, is that right?</blockquote>