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Message: <blockquote data-quote="trigger" data-source="post: 525779" data-attributes="member: 186777">Firstly I think it is correct that you will need to go through ITV first via the red button. Yes certain ITV stations are available without using Astra 2D at the moment but long term this will probably cause you problems.It would be better to get a HD Receiver that will open this and other things. At least if then the ITV HD is unavailable you have a receiver that has some other use.Personally I use a Darkbox 2008 and ITV comes through brilliantly here in Lanzarote with a 1.2M dish but an 80cm would do the job.Good luck</blockquote>