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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Crossman" data-source="post: 4645">This is for 2old,Do you know what the agreed standard for Stream and telepiu are?You see...  They used to use irdeto and seca respectively.  MY family are going down to italy in April to pick up a irdeto and stream reciever to muck about with using pirate cards.  But now I remember that I heard somewhere that the new single standard is coming in to action in March and that could really muck things up!Thanks,Rob,P.S.  If you want pirate cards or programming equipment or pirate playstation games just go to the centre of Naples and there a dudes on the street that sell ALL of this stuff for less than you could imagine</blockquote>