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Message: <blockquote data-quote="jeallen01" data-source="post: 1091147" data-attributes="member: 176704">Agreed as almost all are both - but very old ones may not be, and it's not clear how old this one is. Can you give a link to where you found it?PS: IIRC the Fortec Star brand, as such, disappeared from sale many years ago in respect of receivers, and I suspect that the same was true of the other types of equipment sold under that brand name. That's just one of the things that makes me suspect that this is a very old motor!</blockquote>