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Message: <blockquote data-quote="nelson_b" data-source="post: 587782" data-attributes="member: 296628">hi -- HB13DISH ---there is  no way to input  numbers  witout  a  remote -i got  a  strong  4375 a while  ago -- no  original  remote --but  it  had  with it  a -Gemini - G310S - 3 device  universal  remote which  worked  o.k. for  95%  of the  functions -- although  it  took a  while  to get  used  to  "which"  button  worked  "what" the  same  remote -- on the  same  setup  code  worked  ok  on a Strong  4155 Evolution  which  i also  recently  bought  without   a remote regards -  nelson_b</blockquote>