The Big Bang ??

[dig deep]

So, do You believe in this ? That everything in Kosmos was starting from a bang ?

Well I don´t.

That would have been some big chunk ! Including what we see(and not see).
And the antimatter stuff !!! Not as many as the real thing Bullox.

All this is (in my opinion ) only sh!t as they can´t explain it in other ways.

So they also need the Inflation - growing faster than light - crazy They don´t understand Mr Einstein
BTW he´s ideas was rejected for many years - they all trusted Newton (yeah he was big)

So, what happened at the first Plank time ? I trust Hawking, he has some good ideas.

Hope You all excuse me for my bad English, some here won´t understand that there is a problem
writing in an alien languages not to mention the spelling.

 

[hairybadger]

Astrophysics doesn't pretend to have all the answers: our current models are the best fit for what can be observed and calculated. All theories - whatever the weight of evidence behind them - are open to question and debate. There are, and will always remain, questions.

The only alternative theories at present involve noodly appendages and similar

 

[PaulR]

Well, the first thing I would say is that the evidence points towards there being a big bang. What do you believe in if you don't think that it's correct?

The inflationary period proposed happened before the first second had passed. The theories proposed suggest that instead of the four dimensions we now know there were more which collapsed as inflation happened. Don't forget that there was no matter at that time; it was too hot for that and everything was energy.

As HB says, the theories that have been proposed are those that seem to explain the universe. They are open to being replaced by something that explains things better.

 

[dig deep]

Yes, some of those theories looks like they come from the outer space.
When BB was "invented" it needed a way to explain the WMAC picture of the Kosmos. So a Nice guy came up with inflation....
Without it there was no BB Something is wrong when You need to invent something to explain the Wmac - think they all is staring
at the BB so they don´t see the tree behind the forest.

I think we all need something better, the easy way out is not always the best.

Good to see You comments ! In the end I think You are not a true BB believer. So, what could be the start ?
I do have a few ideas, will explain later on/if this thread will stay alive /

 

[2cvbloke]

I can believe the theory of the big bang, though I prefer the idea of the repeated bang, where you have a continuous expansion, contraction, collapse, explosion, expansion, contraction, collapse, explosion, etc., it's the same idea s how a sun works, immense amount of gravity pulls in matter causing it to be compressed and put out vast amounts of energy, and when the gravity field weakens, it goes nova and explodes sending its matter out which after trillions of years could re-converge to form something new...

That's how I understand it, whether it's true or not, it doesn't matter, after all, how will the mysteries of the universe affect my washing machine?

 

[dig deep]

Hmm, it must be all those neutrinos (another nice invention to make things work)

 

[dig deep]

What about "the" Black holes ?

Einstein said that the speed of Light is the max. When You reach that time will stop
If time stops what could happen with anything coming close to it ? Time must stop for it as well!
So, nothing could ever be a part of an hole(lol) so hols can only get bigger by growing in size - not by engulfing anything ?
or was our Leader wrong ? Don´t think so - you could never fall into a time machine me think.....

 

[Channel Hopper]

What about "the" Black holes ?

Einstein said that the speed of Light is the max. When You reach that time will stop
If time stops what could happen with anything coming close to it ? Time must stop for it as well!
So, nothing could ever be a part of an hole(lol) so hols can only get bigger by growing in size - not by engulfing anything ?
or was our Leader wrong ? Don´t think so - you could never fall into a time machine me think.....

Just wait until you start looking at white holes as per the work of Dr Kibble (who passed away just recently , or did he ????)

According to general relativity, the gravitational collapse of a sufficiently compact mass forms a singular black hole. In the Einstein–Cartan theory, however, the minimal coupling between torsion and Dirac spinors generates a repulsive spin–spin interaction which is significant in fermionic matter at extremely high densities. Such an interaction prevents the formation of a gravitational singularity. Instead, the collapsing matter on the other side of the event horizon reaches an enormous but finite density and rebounds, forming a regular Einstein–Rosen bridge. The other side of the bridge becomes a new, growing baby universe. For observers in the baby universe, the parent universe appears as the only white hole. Accordingly, the observable universe is the Einstein–Rosen interior of a black hole existing as one of possibly many inside a larger universe. The Big Bang was a nonsingular Big Bounce at which the observable universe had a finite, minimum scale factor.



Kibble-Zurek mechanism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Terryl]

The universe as we see it is only 32 billion light years across, (look one way you see 16 billion light years, look the other way and again you see 16 billion light years) this is as far back in time as we can look, it goes even further back then that as we have seen very very very faint blue shifted spots on the exposures sent down from the Hubble. (currently our only visible image source for this)

And Einstein was right for his time, the speed of light was a wall that could not be broken, however new discovery's in sub atomic particles have proven this barrier or speed limit to be wrong, there is one that I know of (forgot the name of it, brain too old) that has been detected to be a bit faster then light, it is a very very very short life span particle, it has been detected in large particle accelerators and it's life span has been measured.

However this particle has also been detected as being created in high energy collisions on the edge of our atmosphere, now due to it's very short life span it should not be able to reach the ground detectors when created 200 miles or more above the Earth as due to it's very short life span it should not be able to reach the ground, only explanation is that it can exceed the so called light speed barrier.

And what is light, a photon, it supposedly does not have any mass, this is how it can travel at the so call speed of light, well if it does not have any mass then how can light exert any form of pressure on any object?

Look at the little toy light vanes, the little things inside a glass bubble with a high vacuum in it, shine a light on it and it starts moving, if a photon does not have any mass then how can it move something as massive as the photon light vane?

And to the big bang, this may have only been a local occurrence in a very larger part of what some are now calling the multiverse, just because we haven't detected the end of out local universe doesn't mean that there is not something even bigger out there.

Who knows we may be a very very very small subatomic universe in a larger place that we can't even imagine right now.

OK too much coffee, time for a nap.

 

[Lazarus]

Forty two.

 

[Terryl]

Well that's the answer but whats the BIG question......................................Will she go out with me this weekend?..........Maybe.

 

[Channel Hopper]

As if on cue, another potential particle on the books from CERN.

Has the LHC discovered a new particle? - BBC News

 

[Lazarus]

Bring back Rutherford and Bohr.

It was all so simple then.

Relatively.

 

[Terryl]

As if on cue, another potential particle on the books from CERN.

Has the LHC discovered a new particle? - BBC News

The big problems with this type of detector is that we can only work and detect up to the speed of light, after that we are blind, there may be more to what is occurring then what we are capable of seeing/detecting.

Now if someone can come up with a detector that works above the speed of light we may have something.

Then again we may not want to know, we could be creating a dark matter hole (different then a black hole) or bubble and we are about to drop our solar system into it, or pop the bubble.

 

[Channel Hopper]

We would never know since I doubt the bubble would give indication or bother to warn anyone beforehand. We might already be inside........

 

[dig deep]

Speeding Light + means going back in time

So perhaps we will get the answer before we even ask the question

 

[Terryl]

Speeding Light + means going back in time

So perhaps we will get the answer before we even ask the question

I have that problem every time I fire up the dark matter fusion reactor and try to send beer over the internet, I have sunk the Titanic 6 out 7 times (ice berg got it the last time) flattened one of the 4 great pyramids, caused the last great ice age (Sorry......................My fault) and I don't even want to talk about those poor Dinosaurs.

Experimental particle physics, the quick way to make your planet go out in the blink of an eye, or who put the garbage bin in the muon reactor and caused that big bang??

 

[Channel Hopper]

I wondered if Hollywood might make Titanic 2.

 

[Terryl]

They ran out of original ideas and names for movies a long time ago, it's probably on the remake or make a sequel list by now.

 

[Channel Hopper]

I stand corrected, somebody did.

Titanic II (Video 2010) - IMDb

So many a-listers took part...........