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<blockquote data-quote="BarMoo" data-source="post: 17423" data-attributes="member: 175089">There has to be a first time - but, even if I love Rolf and his posts - I totally disagree with every point that he has made; mainly because he dismisses them as par of the course.Perhaps, but RTE is encrypted and is not part of the UK package.&nbsp; My concerns regard RTE - not UK SKY viewers wanting to watch RTE (which they cannot).NO. This is not a non-starter.&nbsp; It does not come to me free.&nbsp; I, as many a member of this board knows, that I went through hell to get BBC TV in Berlin three years ago.&nbsp; Moreover, I was the first on this board to explain that phoning (to authorise cards) from abroad was fine and not something any ex-pat wishing to get UK telly should do (as was the info at the time).&nbsp; The subscription card argument is irrelevant.I will let others decide.&nbsp; I have no problems paying for a SKY service.&nbsp; I don't, as it happens (cancelled after two years).&nbsp; The fact remains that, just with ITV Digital, the BBC will be utilising existing technologies for their own end without a pfennig of investment.&nbsp; You tell me whether that is a cool thing to continue?Fact is - it will be&nbsp; there and its free.&nbsp; This is a bogus argument.&nbsp; Anyone with a dish and a box will be able to tune into eight channels of un-encrypted english language TV channels for FREE.&nbsp; Only a fool would forget what this means.Furthermore, if it was simply a case of 'fixed dishes' why can I swing my dish from 40° east to 7°east and find NO FTA national broadcaster's across Europe.&nbsp; Don't assume anything.&nbsp;This becomes irrelevant, somehow.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="BarMoo, post: 17423, member: 175089"] There has to be a first time - but, even if I love Rolf and his posts - I totally disagree with every point that he has made; mainly because he dismisses them as par of the course. Perhaps, but RTE is encrypted and is not part of the UK package. My concerns regard RTE - not UK SKY viewers wanting to watch RTE (which they cannot). NO. This is not a non-starter. It does not come to me free. I, as many a member of this board knows, that I went through hell to get BBC TV in Berlin three years ago. Moreover, I was the first on this board to explain that phoning (to authorise cards) from abroad was fine and not something any ex-pat wishing to get UK telly should do (as was the info at the time). The subscription card argument is irrelevant. I will let others decide. I have no problems paying for a SKY service. I don't, as it happens (cancelled after two years). The fact remains that, just with ITV Digital, the BBC will be utilising existing technologies for their own end without a pfennig of investment. You tell me whether that is a cool thing to continue? Fact is - it will be there and its free. This is a bogus argument. Anyone with a dish and a box will be able to tune into eight channels of un-encrypted english language TV channels for FREE. Only a fool would forget what this means. Furthermore, if it was simply a case of 'fixed dishes' why can I swing my dish from 40° east to 7°east and find NO FTA national broadcaster's across Europe. Don't assume anything. This becomes irrelevant, somehow. [/QUOTE]

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